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a week of firsts and oh... a few questions...

kc8501 Jul 03, 2003 09:24 AM

Well this has been a busy week for me! Got my first snakes (2 2-3 month old spotted pythons (gecko's and turtles too, but thats another story)) Got to feed snakes for the first time, and now I've been bitten for the first time (guess I didn't wash the gecko smell off well enough). Gotta love these new expierences. Fortunatly I'm still having fun. So, on to the questions, please be nice... I'm a newbie...

1. I never see this asked... I feed (fed) my snakes in a separate tank... but when and HOW do I get them back into thier cage? I managed it, but I'm curious how others do it.

2. How do you know when your snake has had a big enough meal? My female just didn't seem to be full, and given the way she went after my finger last night (3 days after meal), I'm thinking she's still hungry. (2ft, on fuzzies)

3. On the same subject, how do you know how far apart thier meals should be? Do you wait until they poop the last one out or what?

4. On Taming them... mine aren't too agressive, but obviously not all that tame... is it just a matter of handling them more often or what? The female isn't too bad, but the male is a bit skittish. I've been leaving them alone this week to let them settle in but....

Guess that's enough for now. Thanks in advance for the answers.

KC

Replies (3)

monitor1o1 Jul 03, 2003 11:48 AM

i feed my 2ft female spotted python a dead small adult mouse.
when its finished eating i use a small snake hook to put it back in its cage.

Sonya Jul 03, 2003 01:07 PM

My Children's have a very strong feeding response so that may be part of it too. Not very much difference with those two species.

>>1. I never see this asked... I feed (fed) my snakes in a separate tank... but when and HOW do I get them back into thier cage? I managed it, but I'm curious how others do it.
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I just move them. Again, beware feeding response and don't over handle them. But I just move them back.

>>2. How do you know when your snake has had a big enough meal? My female just didn't seem to be full, and given the way she went after my finger last night (3 days after meal), I'm thinking she's still hungry. (2ft, on fuzzies)

Two feet....Hmmm. Both my Children's are that and adults and eat small to medium mice or rat pups, sometimes two if it is hopper mice. Some site or book I read on this genera was saying a combo of two or so that equalled 30-50grams was what they fed. I don't go that high. My girl will take 25- 35 gram rat pups though.

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>>3. On the same subject, how do you know how far apart thier meals should be? Do you wait until they poop the last one out or what?
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My female just laid and I am building her up again and so feeding her every 5 days. Otherwise they both eat almost that often, sometimes to 7 days. I don't bother counting poops as they don't metabolize like colubrids sometimes. Younger snakes I got every 5 days too. As they get older they get bigger meals less often. You will get a feel for it.
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Sonya

Jaymz Jul 03, 2003 01:32 PM

i cant offer concrete advice, since everyones husbandry methods are different. this is just how i keep, feed, and anything else with MY collection.

1. i wouldnt feed outside of the enclosure. like a mans home is his castle, a snakes cage is its territory. some snakes feed ok outside of their cages, others do not, when you remove a snake from its territory its often times very stressful. not to mention if it was a larger snake it would be VERY dangerous. if youre housing the spotteds together i would suggest seperate cages, even if you feed outside of the cage the snakes still smell like mice, and if one smells like a mouse and the other is still hungry enough it could lead to problems. i always house snakes seperately, its easier to keep records, feed, clean, handle, just about everything is easier. and you also dont have to worry about moving them back after they eat....another bonus.

2. i judge this by mother nature (kind of). a snake in the wild would never be "full", there are exceptions, but more often than not most snakes are still a little hungry after a meal. different species of snake also have different metabolic rates, some digest incredibly fast others not so much. i judge meal size per snake, i give them something big enough to put a lump in em, not a huge one, but a decent buldge. if its smaller prey ill offer 2 or 3 smaller prey items. snakes are opportunists by nature, theyll eat and eat till they litterally cant eat anymore. think of it this way, a snake that gets enough to maintain its weight is better off than a snake that gets too much food and becomes obese. its harder to underfeed alot of the time. and i have to agree with the other posts, at 2 feet small - medium adult mice should be just about right.

3. this is a personal preference type of deal, with a smaller python like any of the Antaresia id say every 7 to 10 days is fine. you could go longer, but if they are younger every 5 to 7 days is ok, they are growing and they need more food, same as growing humans. however, dont keep feeding if too much time elapses between defecations. with some species this is normal, bloods go for a notoriously long time between bowel movements. spotteds are more regular, keep records and it will be far easier to tell if somethings wrong!

4. i wouldnt refer to any snake as tame, or any other wild animal. snakes are not domesticated, they still have the vast majority of their wild behaviors, these include being defensive, sometimes aggressive. getting to know your snakes will take away a world of issues we as keepers can have. learn their body language, when they tend to be more docile...it comes with time, but its also some of the most valuable information youll get. now, after all of that, snakes are individuals, some will tolerate handling, some will not, some better some not so much.
its actually quite easy to over handle some snakes. the easiest way to a docile snake is short handling sessions, 5 to 10 minutes at a time 2 or 3 times a week...doesnt sound like alot but it works. i dont usually handle my snakes outside of cage cleaning and a once a week check over. only one of my snakes is what i would call aggressive...the other 11 are all pretty docile, some have their quirks, i have a manakwari barneck scrub python that doesnt like to be handled by anyone wearing short sleeves, odd but true.

J
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Jaymz
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