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I am writing a care sheet for this snake and would like the following indormation.
Time from mating to hatching.
temperature requirements.
will the young take pinkey mice or best to start on a fish diet.
Are they easy to get onto pinky mice.
Any other information that Is relevant.
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1:2.. Pituophis catenifer (melanoleucus) sayi (Bull Snake)
0.1.. Boiga Cyanea
1:1.. Gonyosoma oxycephalum (Silver Phase)
1:1.. Lampropeltis getula "goini" (Tangerine Phase)
01.. Eryx miliaris nogaiorum
1:1.. Elaphe o. obsoleta (liquorice stick or white sided rat snakes)
0:1.. Eryx jaculus
1:1.. Lampropeltis pyromelana woodini (Huachuca Mountain Kingsnake)
1:2.. Elaphe bimaculata (Twin-spotted Rat Snake)
0:1.. Elaphe sauromates
1:1.. Candoia carinata paulsoni (Soloman Island ground Boas)
1:1:1.. Natrix tessellata
Lizards
1:0..Tupinambis teguixin ssp. (Golden Tegu)
0:1..Uromastyx acanthinurus
1:1..Pogona henrylawsonii [brevis] (Rankins Dragons)
Arachnid’s
Pterinochilus murinus
Kilimanjaro Sootyback
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>>I am writing a care sheet for this snake and would like the following indormation.
>>Time from mating to hatching.

They don't hatch. These snakes are live-bearers.

>>temperature requirements.

Same as other cool temerate snakes..70-82*F, should do it.

>>will the young take pinkey mice or best to start on a fish diet.

Young are too tiny to take pinkies. Probably will have to start on guppies or tadpoles.

>>Are they easy to get onto pinky mice.

Should be able to switch to mice when big enough to swallow pinkies.

Wild caught specimens make terrible captives. They usually die from disease and parasites before they can be established. Not many people have kept them very long even when established. I think someone could do well with them if they live long enough and one was really dedicated.

TC

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Ratsnake Haven: Calico and hypo Chinese beauty snakes, Mandarin ratsnakes, Chinese twin-spotted ratsnakes, South Korean Dione's ratsnake, Great Plains ratsnakes and corns

>>>>I am writing a care sheet for this snake and would like the following indormation.
>>>>Time from mating to hatching.
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>>They don't hatch. These snakes are live-bearers.
>>
>>>>temperature requirements.
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>>Same as other cool temerate snakes..70-82*F, should do it.
>>
>>>>will the young take pinkey mice or best to start on a fish diet.
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>>Young are too tiny to take pinkies. Probably will have to start on guppies or tadpoles.
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>>>>Are they easy to get onto pinky mice.
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>>Should be able to switch to mice when big enough to swallow pinkies.
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>>Wild caught specimens make terrible captives. They usually die from disease and parasites before they can be established. Not many people have kept them very long even when established. I think someone could do well with them if they live long enough and one was really dedicated.
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>>TC
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>>Ratsnake Haven: Calico and hypo Chinese beauty snakes, Mandarin ratsnakes, Chinese twin-spotted ratsnakes, South Korean Dione's ratsnake, Great Plains ratsnakes and corns

Thank's for answering my questions. I did know they were livebearers it was a typo.

I have managed to get a few of these from an importer they look to be in excellent condition externally. Three of them is taking defrosted lance fish.

Regards John
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1:2.. Pituophis catenifer (melanoleucus) sayi (Bull Snake)
0.1.. Boiga Cyanea
1:1.. Gonyosoma oxycephalum (Silver Phase)
1:1.. Lampropeltis getula "goini" (Tangerine Phase)
01.. Eryx miliaris nogaiorum
1:1.. Elaphe o. obsoleta (liquorice stick or white sided rat snakes)
0:1.. Eryx jaculus
1:1.. Lampropeltis pyromelana woodini (Huachuca Mountain Kingsnake)
1:2.. Elaphe bimaculata (Twin-spotted Rat Snake)
0:1.. Elaphe sauromates
1:1.. Candoia carinata paulsoni (Soloman Island ground Boas)
1:1:1.. Natrix tessellata
Lizards
1:0..Tupinambis teguixin ssp. (Golden Tegu)
0:1..Uromastyx acanthinurus
1:1..Pogona henrylawsonii [brevis] (Rankins Dragons)
Arachnid’s
Pterinochilus murinus
Kilimanjaro Sootyback
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Elaphe bimaculata is challenging enough for me. Do you have any bimac pictures?

TC

Hello,
Oocatochus consist from two words - first is "egg" and second is "delay". This name was created by Notker Helfenberger, when he do revision of genus Elaphe.
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Tula Exotarium
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E.g. guttata Normal 2.3
E.g. guttata Albino 2.4
E.g. guttata Oketee 2.0
E.g. guttata Hypo Oketee 1.1
E.g. guttata Albino Okeetee 2.2
E.g. guttata Ghost 2.3
E.g. guttata Motley 2.2
E.g. guttata Albino Motley 2.2
E.g. guttata Anerythristic 2.2
E.g. guttata Snow 2.4
E.g. guttata Creamsicle 2.1
E.g. rosacea 2.2
E.g. emoryi 2.2

E. persica black 3.4
E. persica brown 2.1
E. longissima 4.6
E. situla 3.3
E. dione 54
E. bimaculata 4.3
E. quatourlineata 10.15

E. o. obsoleta yellow 2.2
E. o. lindheimeri White Sided 2.2.
E. o. lindheomeri Leucistic 1.2
E. o. lindheimeri Black Orange 2.2
E. o. quatourlineata 1.3
E. o. quatourlineata Deckerti 2.2
E. o. quatourlineata Williamsi 1.0
E. o. rossalleni 2.2

Langaha madagascariensis 2.1.12
Cylindrophis ruffus 0.1
Enhydris plumbea 1.0

>>Elaphe bimaculata is challenging enough for me. Do you have any bimac pictures?
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>>TC