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This is my adult male Isla Marajo Rainbow Boa, Epicrates cenchria barbouri. My two females are darker than this.
Jeff

Awesome! Did you produce any Peruvians or Isla Marajos this year?
Chris O
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Chris,
...No babies from either this year. The Isla Marajos were probably not quite mature but should be ready this year. One of the Peruvians laid a big pile of slugs in 03. I am cooling more and longer and keeping the males away from the females longer right now to see if that gets better results. AFAIK there were no Isla Marajos produced in the US the last several years. My opinion is that the number of litters of true Peruvian Rainbows produced this year in US could be counted on one hand with a couple fingers left over.
Jeff

>>Awesome! Did you produce any Peruvians or Isla Marajos this year?
>>Chris O
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>>www.chrisolsonreptiles.com
>>Naked I see the camp of those who desire nothing

Hi Jeff,

I've read several places lately that there is a scale count difference between Brazilians an Peruvians. Do you know if this is true for the other subspecies of rainbow boas? If so, this may be able to help with Randy and his Trinidad.

Mike

Mike,
...I have not seen any info about scale counts for barbouri. There is some scale count info for a couple of the subspecies in Wall's book "The Living Boas". Sorry but I am on a short vacation and do not have the book with me. I will post some numbers when I get home. I would bet that Randy's new snake will have scale counts like a Colombian Rainbow.
Jeff

>>Hi Jeff,
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>>I've read several places lately that there is a scale count difference between Brazilians an Peruvians. Do you know if this is true for the other subspecies of rainbow boas? If so, this may be able to help with Randy and his Trinidad.
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>>Mike

Mike, Jeff, I had thought about the scale count, never could find any info on it for Trinidads. I have tracked down a wild caught female that I'm trying to get photos of. I'll tell you this the information on TRBs out there is very little. Some of the sites have obvious CRBs listed as TRBs ie one shows photos of what it says is a TRB but it looks like a CRB is longer and thicker than Trinidads are supposed to be as well as darker. Gee I guess I'll have to take a trip to Trinidad to hunt some up to know for sure lol. When she's settled in for a while I'll get a scale count on her to compare to a CRB

I'll post a photo I found of a wild TRB in Trinidad which is what I went by to determine if the one I bought was ??

Randy,
...Many of the Rainbow Boas on Trinidad are likely 100% Colombian Rainbow Boa, Epicrates cenchria maurus. IMO your snake is at least 90% maurus and perhaps may even be pure maurus. The other Rainbow Boas on Trinidad either look like the unrecognized supspecies we call the Guayana Rainbow Boa or they look like Brazilian Colombian crosses. The Rainbow Boas on the mainland coastal area just west southwest of Trinidad are mostly maurus. Inland from their and further east are the unrecognized Guayna subspecies and a little further east and then extending further south and then back west all the way into northern Peru are the Brazilian Rainbow Boas. It will be a long time before anyone sorts this species out and we can say for sure what your snake and all the other Rainbow Boas along that area really are.
Jeff

>>Mike, Jeff, I had thought about the scale count, never could find any info on it for Trinidads. I have tracked down a wild caught female that I'm trying to get photos of. I'll tell you this the information on TRBs out there is very little. Some of the sites have obvious CRBs listed as TRBs ie one shows photos of what it says is a TRB but it looks like a CRB is longer and thicker than Trinidads are supposed to be as well as darker. Gee I guess I'll have to take a trip to Trinidad to hunt some up to know for sure lol. When she's settled in for a while I'll get a scale count on her to compare to a CRB
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>>I'll post a photo I found of a wild TRB in Trinidad which is what I went by to determine if the one I bought was ??