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Vivarium Question

BryanR. Dec 26, 2004 11:34 PM

This isnt about arrow frogs, but the arrow frog forum is the best place to ask about Vivariums. Is a Vivarium in a 29 gallon tank a good idea for 2 FBT,s doesnt it make a difference? Cause I dont see it doen with many other animals besides darts. I have all the materials for the false bottom and i should be ready to start on it tomorrow while my frogs are stored in a 10 gal.
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Deven Dec 27, 2004 02:36 AM

I build vivariums for lots of different herps - not just dart frogs.

what questions do you have about your fbt?

you should have a good filter, a solid seperation between the land and water; Palidarium is what you're looking for, and the soil should be loose; hald milled peat moss and super soil.

email if you have any questions.

BryanR. Dec 27, 2004 12:45 PM

Yeah I have lots of herps, I just never got to making a living viarium that look completely natural. I've wanted to do it forever just never got to it, nor the funds. Lol is till lack time but i do have money so I got all the materials to build the false bottom, got a pump for the waterfall, still not sure if I want it under the false bottom or seperate from the tank (which would mean the water would have to be syphoned out from the false bottom). There will be a pond section of the tank I might make it deep, or just keep it shallow, if I want it deep I'll need to use some waterproof device at the shorline to keep the soil from becoming soggy. Ill use gravel over the egg crate and mesh, another material over the gravel, then eco-bedding stuff on top of that with pillow moss covering the landscape. I'm not sure what plants to add yet besides the Java Moss and Pillow moss. Any suggestions?
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Deven Dec 28, 2004 02:23 AM

what you should do is get some water fall expanding foam, and build the "wall" that will be between the water and land portions.
be sure to clean your glass very well with alcohol and then rinse, and dry good. use a marker and draw your idea or like i've done is draw it on cardboard then set that under the tank.

get some aluminum expanded metal; in the chicken wire area of home depot, and with leather gloves, build up your shape. place
it in the tank along your pattern. shake foam up, and with can upside down, poke nozzle into the wire mesh form. once your fill the inside of your "wall" let the foam dry. be creative but real.
with FBTs watch the accessability of your wall|divider.

once it's dry, cover with vivarium mortar or portland cement, the later is cheaper! you only need to mix a little at a time, and mix a stiff mix, 1:1 with distilled water. using rubber gloves, hand apply this to the dried foam form with a thickness of 1/2" or so. use sand to add texture and even some gravel towards the bottom for a more real effect. i've used a 1:3 (Cement:water) mix and coated parts after the main part was dry then added the sand and such. even coated leaves once and that worked great...Off TOpic...

once the cement is dry (a week), using a non toxic sealer (my site) as it's able to seal the cement so there is no change to the pH and no leaching at all!. apply this with hand held spray bottle though as a brush won't make the application level. really soak the whole thing.

once that is dry, which depending on the thickness and your application could take a day or two, you can now add your soil and water.

email for photo links if you want. i tried here but got the red X issue.

hope this helped. what size tank is it? also, what kind of filter are you using? if you want a water feature on the land or just want to run the inlet hose to the other end of the tank from the filter side, just lay the hose first then foam, etc.

pretty easy though.

Sincerely,

Deven Nicholson

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