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Thanks go to John Stephenson of Marysville, Calif.
When I was studying the Sharp-tailed Snake a few years back, John showed me a site at Wheatland, Calif. that had a good population of the species. On our way from Oregon to Calif. on the 24th, I stopped at that site and found 8 Sharptails under tins and boards.

On Christmas day across the road from my sister's residence in St. Helena Calif., I observed approximately 100 - 120 Slender Salamanders, 3 Black Salamanders, 3 W. Fence Lizards, and 1 S. Alligator Lizard. The salamanders were active but the lizards were found in a torpid state beneath cover objects.

Richard F. Hoyer

wow, you just missed the heavy rains here on monday. good finds/jon

Winter herping is not a waste of time here in So-Cal either, Board flipping has shown me several herps lately, including Helleri, Cal kings, ringnecks, and way too many Aligator lizards to count.

Nice report...
I hope that your situation with the law is improving...

Greatful,
No new information has emerged from the Utah situation except that my son again rejected a tentative 'deal' from the wildlife agency and indicated he wish to take the case before a jury trial. Then a week later at the pre-trial conference, a trial date was set of the second week in March.

One never knows how justice will work. But with what information we do have, I am very hopeful that either the state's case or our suit against the wildlife agency goes to trial so we can have public disclosure as to what has transpired. It is hard to wait another 2 1/2 months in order to get some agency personnel and their two informants on the witness stand.

Richard F. Hoyer