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just a few pics i took last of the eggs and my home-made incubator...

one of the infertile eggs that i couldnt remove

and a few pics of the fertile eggs... i've taken a few pics like these ones before but i've never been able to catch the developing embryo... but typically when i check the eggs with no camera to hand i can see them wriggling.

regards
bob

Congrats on the eggs. Very nice shots of the egg development.
How long and frequent did you allow the two to copulate?
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thank you. the number of copulationa was probably only 2 or 3, to be honest it wasnt a planned attempt at breeding due to the young age of the male.

regards
bob

Hey Bob,
First congrats on the eggs and much luck with the rest of the clutch; I hope they all hatch successfully. As for the infertile egg, that egg doesn't seem to be behaving like an infertile egg would during decomp, more than likely, the embryo died as a matter of bad positioning during the polarization phase where the embryo settled at the bottom of the egg (underneath the yolk sac) versus settling on top of the yolk sac. I have some eggs, that were saved to monitor the decomp of infertile eggs and they don't take on the usual discoloration as a dead fertile-egg does, from the resulting bacteria that forms while in the throes of decomposition.

Below are a few photos that I shot to demontrate the difference of a good egg gone bad, with visible advance decomposition. The other photo demonstrates the same egg opened with the embryo visible in the photo indicated by the red arrows.
The last photo, shows infertile eggs (slugs), with no visible decomp visible. The eggs rather become visibly petrified and amber in color.

-Angel



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Hey Bob,
I must point out, that the eggs in the photo, were prematurely laid, and also, were poorly calcified and malformed. So they aren't the best subject to demonstrate my point, however, the point of the photo is to demonstrate the lack of decomp in infertile (slugs) eggs where no embryo is known to exist.

I had a photo of some normally calcified eggs with similar advance stage petrification and no decomp visible. I can't seem locate the photo; I'll keep looking.

-Angel
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-Henry Miller.

great pics angel.. i like your point as i have another egg left that is also decomposing but this has occurred at a quicker rate and also the colour is different.

the other strange thing is that there is yet another unfertile egg that so far has not shown any signs of decomposition... it will be interesting to see how this one goes when it finally does.

regards
bob

Hey Bob,
Way good to see you've got some babies on the way. My male black, lost in August, also bred the female black that produced this clutch for only two days; and we already know the result of the serendipitous paring. All the best!
-Angel
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-Henry Miller.

I think thats great that you took the time to study that, I just toss and go on. It's people like you that I depend on for info, because I have wondered these things. Thanks Angel... Hope Jet is doing good now.

Hey Greenman,
You got it! It's an interesting study and one that I've been interested in for a while. The rest of the clutch appears to be doing fine. I'll keep you guys posted of any changes and also, when Lee drops her eggs.

-Angel
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"Until we lose our self, there is no way of finding our self."
-Henry Miller.