Reptile & Amphibian Forums

A Pewter would produce? Or I Spider X Amber....Hummmm. I was just thinking of some new crosses for 05 or 06. Would be interesting I bet. Thanks DAVID

Spider to Pewter would produce

1/8 each of Spider, Bumblebee, Cinny Spider, Pewter Spider, Pewter, Cinny, Pastel and Normal.

I think!

Amber would be the same thing replace Pewter with Amber since Amber are suposedly produce with cinny to pastel breeding. I only say Suposedly since they call the animal a cinny but if it is producing something different than pewters or super cinny's than I think it should be called something different.
-----
Nita Hamilton
4.13 Normal BP's, 1.0 Het Orange Ghost BP, 1.0 Het Pied 1.0 50% poss Het Orange Ghost BP's

The problem is we don't yet know if the cinnamon and pastel that are combined to make pewter are two different mutations of the same gene or unrelated mutations of different genes or something in-between like mutations of different genes linked by being close together on the same chromosome. As far as that goes the same applies to the relationship between spider and cinnamon, we don’t know yet if there is one or not. I do think the killer bee proves that spider and pastel are mutations of genes on different chromosomes.

So, if it turns out that all three mutations (spider, pastel, and cinnamon) are on three different chromosomes then you get the 1/8 split of each of the 8 combinations.

However, if it turns out that say pastel and cinnamon are alleles (different mutations of the same gene) then the pewter can't pass both the cinnamon and the pastel gene on to the same baby (it also has no normal copies of this gene). You would end up with 1/4 bumblebee, 1/4 cinnamon spider, 1/4 pastel only, and 1/4 cinnamon only. Notice the absence of normals in this scenario. If any of the first pewters where males they will hopefully breed this year to normals and we'll find out if those two genes are alleles when we see if they can produce any normals or not. Actually if they are just linked by being close together on the same chromosome it might look like they are alleles at first but after a long time someone will eventually get the right crossover for one to produce a normal or a pewter bred to a normal.

The Spider Cinnamon....Spidamon (Spiderman)
The Super Cinnamon Spider....Supermon (Superman)
The Bumblebee Cinnamon....Spidamon Bee (Vitamin B)

-----
Luke Martin
Bronze Serpent Reptiles

My daughter named her normal girl Superman..... Mind you if you ask her what her name is she tells ya Sasha Superman!
-----
Nita Hamilton
4.13 Normal BP's, 1.0 Het Orange Ghost BP, 1.0 Het Pied 1.0 50% poss Het Orange Ghost BP's

Spam Ball

I love it...why do we always have to be so formal with the names....
I know once I produce a pastel mojave and a hypo pastel mojave I'll be calling them a Motel and a Hotel....
-----
Luke Martin
Bronze Serpent Reptiles

..