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Breeder Loans. Who does it work?

vidusa Jan 05, 2005 07:36 AM

I am thinking of a breeder loan, specifically, myself lending a turtle to someone else who has experience breeding and has a mate for the turtle. How does such a loan work. How do you compensate for the risk of the turtle dying in the lendee hands? Does anyone have a sample contract or language used? Does anyone have experience in this?

Mark

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HerperHelmz Jan 05, 2005 07:13 PM

Ok, I have been in breeding loans a few times, how it mainly goes in my cases...

A person will send me a snake that will be bred to one of mine, I give them more than that specimen is worth incase something happens to it, they pay to ship it to me, I get it bred, I get 3/4 of the babies, I send back 1/4 of the babies and the originally sent snake, I pay for shipping, they send back my money. I am aware that there are plenty of ways to go about it all, but that is the method I use.
Michael
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vidusa Jan 06, 2005 07:17 AM

Do you sign a contract? Also, does the lendee (receiver) pay the money as a deposit that you hold for him until the turtle is returned? How are you ever sure how many offspring the animal you lend produces? The breeder could claim less offspring than actually produced. How do you monitor the deal?

I'm thinking of lending a rare turtle that I don't have a mate for. In such a situation, I would like to have it producing and would like to have it back once a mate is acquired.

Mark

HerperHelmz Jan 06, 2005 03:02 PM

Do you sign a contract? Also, does the lendee (receiver) pay the money as a deposit that you hold for him until the turtle is returned? How are you ever sure how many offspring the animal you lend produces? The breeder could claim less offspring than actually produced. How do you monitor the deal?

I have yet to sign a contract or anything, but you can bring a simple contract into the whole mix and ask the other breeder to sign it and agree to more of your terms. If you are giving a rare turtle away on breeding loan, they would/should give you more than your turtle is worth, just incase something happens to it, and you give them that money back when they send you back your turtle and some hatchlings. The breeder could cheat you, I have been on that "other side" of a breeding loan, one time, with my albino ringneck, which I got back before she laid eggs, so that I could make sure how many eggs she laid(I didn't want cheated).

I'd say don't do the deal unless it is with a very reputable breeder, someone well known to the herp field, someone you feel you can trust, basically someone with a reputation that you can ruin if they screw you lol. Maybe you can get the turtle bred a few times and then they can send it back to you before she lays, although that would create un-needed stress for the gravid turtle. What kind of turtle do you have that you are looking to put on breeding loan?
Michael
Michael's Place

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