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Juvie albino leopard??

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"Life is a Safari"

hey what's up? nice lookin leo you got there ;D looks like a tremper if you ask me ;]

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0.1.0 - Hypo-Golden Leopard Gecko (Skizzardt)
0.0.1 - Tremper Albino Leopard Gecko (Baybee Skiz)
0.0.2 - (Morph Unknown) Leopard Geckos (unnamed)
0.0.1 - Bearded Dragon (Phoenix)
1.0.0 - Gold Gecko (Chewonowski)
0.0.1 - White Line Gecko (unnamed)
1.0.0 - Hatian Curly Tail (Chubby)
1.0.0 - Green Anoles (Yo-Boi)
0.0.1 - House Gecko (unnamed)
0.0.1 - Bahama Anole (Home-Boi)
0.0.1 - Betta Fish (Redz)
1.1.0 - Dog (Bernie and Molly)
0.2.0 - Cats (Remy and Shylo)
0.1.0 - Fiancee (Steffanie)

I have seen some albinos, that are really dark, They where marked Bell, and las vegas lines. I was curious if there where T positive and T negative lines of Albino leopard geckos. Thanks for the reply...
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"Life is a Safari"

All three strains of albino are T positive.

There is a great deal of overlap colorwise between the strains. If you look at enough of them, however, you'll be able to determine what strain most of them are.

Bells are typically dark. They tend to have a sharp pattern. The edges of the markings have a crispness to them. They also tend to have lots of small spots. Despite their dark pattern, however, bells will have light eyes. The eyes will look red or pink. Dark trempers on the other hand, tend to have dark eyes with deep maroon veining.

Rainwaters tend to have a very faded pattern. In my opinion, rainwaters and trempers are the most difficult to tell apart. Usually it is a pale pinkish brown. The pattern, especially dorsally almost fades into the body. Most rainwaters will also have redder eye veining than a tremper of similar coloring.

Trempers are the most variable. Their patterns range from white to chocolate brown and virtually every color in between. The lightest trempers are usually hatched from eggs incubated at high temperatures (mid 80's - 90). If deprived of a 90 degree hotspot or if they decide to spend a few days on the cool side, most will darken. The degree to which they will darken is variable, but I've seen documentation of them going all the way from white to dark brown. The lighter the tremper, the redder the eyes. The white patterned trempers will often have eyes similar to that of a bell in color. What makes the typical bell stand out, is the light eyes coupled with a dark body pattern.

Of the three strains, the tremper is the most common. If you get an albino from a petstore, it's almost always a tremper. Rainwaters are a distant second followed by bells, which are the rarest. Check out the leo pics at www.crestedgecko.com and www.groundgeckofreak.com both these sites have pictures of all three strains.

Hope this helps some,
Alice

Yes that helped alot, Thanks so much for your feedback. I purchased all of the albinos, from a local Petco, for $19.95, all are super healthy, and feed right from your hands. They are great. I kinda thought they where Trempers, Thanks again for your reply.
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"Life is a Safari"

that answered some questions that i didn't even know i had! LOL
thanks!
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what about these. At first i thought all to be tremper but that are all very dark. pic of two together are females from the same parents, or so i was told. They both weigh about 30 grams. the second is from different parents. He is about 20 grams now. I think the darker color on these looks cool! Are they just dark trempers? Its soooo hard to tell the differnt strains apart sometimes isnt it?!?

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0.1.0 Yellow/German Giant Beardie (Helga)
1.0.0 Chris Allen red x Red flame bearded
0.1.0 Orange x Redflame bearded (Stevie)
0.1.0 Flaming tiger x Pastel
1.0.0 15 year old Eastern Box Turtles (Radar)
0.1.0 Brown Basilisk (Leroy, I know shes a girl!)
0.1.0 Adopted Beardie (Sissy)
0.1.0 Rescued Beardie missing limb (Lefty) Being taken in by the mid-michigan reptile rescue.

Too many leos to count.....

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0.1.0 Yellow/German Giant Beardie (Helga)
1.0.0 Chris Allen red x Red flame bearded
0.1.0 Orange x Redflame bearded (Stevie)
0.1.0 Flaming tiger x Pastel
1.0.0 15 year old Eastern Box Turtles (Radar)
0.1.0 Brown Basilisk (Leroy, I know shes a girl!)
0.1.0 Adopted Beardie (Sissy)
0.1.0 Rescued Beardie missing limb (Lefty) Being taken in by the mid-michigan reptile rescue.

Too many leos to count.....

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>>0.1.0 Yellow/German Giant Beardie (Helga)
>>1.0.0 Chris Allen red x Red flame bearded
>>0.1.0 Orange x Redflame bearded (Stevie)
>>0.1.0 Flaming tiger x Pastel
>>1.0.0 15 year old Eastern Box Turtles (Radar)
>>0.1.0 Brown Basilisk (Leroy, I know shes a girl!)
>>0.1.0 Adopted Beardie (Sissy)
>>0.1.0 Rescued Beardie missing limb (Lefty) Being taken in by the mid-michigan reptile rescue.
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>>Too many leos to count.....
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0.1.0 Yellow/German Giant Beardie (Helga)
1.0.0 Chris Allen red x Red flame bearded
0.1.0 Orange x Redflame bearded (Stevie)
0.1.0 Flaming tiger x Pastel
1.0.0 15 year old Eastern Box Turtles (Radar)
0.1.0 Brown Basilisk (Leroy, I know shes a girl!)
0.1.0 Adopted Beardie (Sissy)
0.1.0 Rescued Beardie missing limb (Lefty) Being taken in by the mid-michigan reptile rescue.

Too many leos to count.....

pic

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0.1.0 Yellow/German Giant Beardie (Helga)
1.0.0 Chris Allen red x Red flame bearded
0.1.0 Orange x Redflame bearded (Stevie)
0.1.0 Flaming tiger x Pastel
1.0.0 15 year old Eastern Box Turtles (Radar)
0.1.0 Brown Basilisk (Leroy, I know shes a girl!)
0.1.0 Adopted Beardie (Sissy)
0.1.0 Rescued Beardie missing limb (Lefty) Being taken in by the mid-michigan reptile rescue.

Too many leos to count.....

both are dark phase trempers
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Dan Quinn