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I saw about 10 animals today and would like to know what makes a longicauda sought after. There were different patterns and definately different colors from very dark to one that looked almost hypo. Please help explain what makes a nice one.

Thanks!
Matt

Personally I like the ones that are super black, but as a neo you can't really tell if they will get really black when they grow up. I also like the ones that have a nice golden/yellow color to them. But like I said so far I haven't seen a way to tell what they are going to look like when they grow up. (The Neonates are very bland)

I'm a longicauda aficionado, and I can only tell you what I like. I would say some are very pretty and some are downright ugly. I think what distinguishes longis is the black saddles and lots of black markings and the dramatic head markings and forehead shield. I don't like the ones with lots of dirty brown. Probably what you think is pretty is what most other people will find pretty and vice versa. Mark

OK.....there was only one with that thick black cross on its head and the rest were lighter in color. The one with the cross also had a pattern that wasn't perfect lice a circleback....does that make a difference at all?

It sounds like you may be picking from babies or immature animals. It makes it hard, as longis may take 3-4 years to reach adult color. They'll all have the head shield eventually, even if it isn't so pronounced as a baby. They'll all get black saddles. You may not notice the saddle pattern or whether they're connected when they're mature, as the black in the body may obscure it. If I was picking from several babies I'd go for the darkest saddles. I think at least the blackest adults will have that going for them. I also prefer greyer background rather than browner. Mark

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>>I'm a longicauda aficionado, and I can only tell you what I like. I would say some are very pretty and some are downright ugly. I think what distinguishes longis is the black saddles and lots of black markings and the dramatic head markings and forehead shield. I don't like the ones with lots of dirty brown. Probably what you think is pretty is what most other people will find pretty and vice versa. Mark
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If you go to www.boa-constrictors.com you can go under Longicauda and see how Herman Stoekl illustrates the changes with maturity in these local boas. It is really hard as babies to tell what they may turn out like, but the particular adult that he has on his site is quite stunning.Personally, I think Longicauda and Occidentallis are the most beautiful of the boas and it is sad that they are not more sought after......GOD BLESS....Johnson Herp

Matt,
I held back Oh just a couple bcls from 03 ( ok 9 but that not to many right) adn this year I had a litter of 25 and no two are a like. there are a lest 4 or five color types in the litter as i see it but maybe im net picking to much. some bibes are a dark dity browns some are a rich chocalote color and some are a light brown in the saddles. body color can be sort of brown, grey, kind of a green and golden yellow and butter yellow. I dont know about the green yet but grey and brownish tend to by the two most common color for bcls ( I like the greys better then brown for a normal) the golden and the butter yellow are the codom and the dom from of a hyper yellow ( i think need some time to work this out still) you said you say some that looked hypo? did they have a real real pale yellow wash to them? the yellow trait seems to reduce over all color. I have produce two longicauda's that I think are dom yellow and are anerys. (half of my stock is anery) as babies their saddles where realy fade to the point of blending with their back ground color in places. as a yearling the yellow anery has more broken patches of black in her saddles and her black color looks flat when place next to a normal anery that has a glossy black color. so in normals the high the pigment in babies the more black they will have as an adult so if the body and the saddles are close in color like the dark brown babies then the adult will be almost all black. the higher the contrast between the saddles and the background color the more contrast you see in adults ( that why people like the grey body animals the most ) they golds and the butter yellow get as black it takes longer then some of the other color but they get more and more yellow as they age (think bumble bee). here is a pick of my female hope this helps sorry to ramble but if you need some more in let me know there more stuff about color that Im pondering

Thank's for all the Info. on Longicauda Boa's, and the pic. of your Female, she is "Beautiful" ! Longicauda are Beautiful Boa's, and someday hopefuly soon, I hope to obtain some ! Your Male Anery you posted below is "Real Nice" Thank's for sharing ! Take Care !
Kenneth
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Beautiful animal! Yes there is one that looks hypo'ish' and I think I will pick it up tomorrow along with the most prominently patterned and colored one. Does it make a difference if one doesn't have a perfect pattern? A bit aberrant at the tail but not that much. I will have to look closely tomorrow and see what is what. Also what price should I be paying for these animals?

the pattern on longicuada can very a lot. I have had everything from thin lined saddle (like fine lines bci's from ronne, cube block like saddles to lacey inter contected saddle and even some striping in both the litters that I have had. so pick a pattern you like and you will most like see the whole gamet of patterns in your babies. as for price someone sold some last year for 275 but that was the lost I have seen them for a couple of years. usal 300-500 depending of what blood line and the color. they can go up to 1000. I usal ask about 350 for my hets and 550 to 800 for my anerys. Im sure that as more people start working with them and people get known what they are they should pick up (i hope) and once all the genetics get work out that should help to.

They are actually priced at $350.00 so this seems to be about the norm from what I have found out. I guess no real 'deal' at that price so I will have to see if there is an animal or two that I can't live without lol!