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HI,

I'm trying to breed an Elaphe guttata guttata with an Elaphe obsoleta quadrivittata. But do you call this a hybride??
Or is there another name for it?

I wonder because it's the similar snake. Only another kind. And they are from the same species.

Yes it would be a hybrid (with no "e" lol). They are not the same species, but they are in the same genus....that would make them a hybrid.

John

I'm from the Netherlands (and i think you are to (LOL)). I used the dutch word for hybrid (foutje).

But Thnx anyway

Rinus

No Im not in the netherlands. Just curious....what made you think so?

John

If you cross two specimens of different biological species together, then their offspring should be considered as hybrids. If you cross two specimens of different subspecies of the same biological species, then their offspring are called intergrades.

Hybridisation of Pantherophis guttatus with P. obsoletus has been done before (a lot). You get the nicest results by breeding guttatus to a subspecies with a blotched pattern, like spiloides or obsoletus. I have seen guttatus * quadrivittatus hybrids before. I think that these hybrids are not quite as attractive as the guttatus * spiloides or guttatus * obsoletus hybrids that I have seen. Why don't you try this instead?

Anyway, since I'm from The Netherlands too, please let me know when your crossbreeding attempts pay off.

Greetings,

Herman Bronsgeest (hermanbronsgeest@hetnet.nl)

Here's a list of the animals currently in my collection:

1.1 Pantherophis bairdi, Banderas County (TX, USA)
2.1 Pantherophis bairdi, Nuevo Leon (Mexico)
2.2 Pantherophis o. deckerti, Key Largo (FL, USA)
2.2 Pantherophis o. obsoletus, albino blotchless
2.2 Pantherophis o. obsoletus, lavender
1.0 Pantherophis o. obsoletus, whitesided
1.2 Pantherophis o. obsoletus, leucistic