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ok, i appricate all who replied about my cham Murphy*
I am hoping from clear description, anyone knows if he will walk again!?.
Murphy is a very friendly cham,and he is bright green all the time and very relaxed with me, so I honestly, as his mum, doubt he is stressed,as i have seen him many a time walk right up to my gold dust day gecko,and the 2 will look at each other, but i know they live in harmony,and are very used to each other.Murphy has never been the best climber, rather clumbsy,he must have slipt from one of his high branches!.He used to eat crix,but now i feed him flies powdered in vit d3 and calcium, i have noticed he is very needy, always wanting me to hold him,he has stopped screaming in pain,so i think his medicine is working great*,he has lots of moss,and peat as substrate,he has very strong arms and can climb good with them, but his legs seem to be lifeless, his tail is always curled up,and is now darker than usual, since not been able to move his legs!.
I need to know does this sound like a legs injury, or could this actually be pelvic???, if so is there any hope for my baby, he has a strong will to live,please help me help him!.
PS: im from Britain, products are different over here, unfortunately!!!.
Thank you kindy*
Gillian*

...of experienced keepers to REMOVE the gecko? It sounds from this post that you are not going to do that, but folks may stop giving you advice if you don't take it. Not that ALL the advice on this forum is flawless, but when the same comes from many and long time owners...well, what more can I say.

You mentioned you went to a vet. Is she/he a herp vet? She/he could probably tell you more b/c of first hand knowledge. Also, check out the article below. hope this helps and PLEASE separate your cham and gecko.

lele
Metabolic Bone Disease

Yes & im grateful towards it, but the other truth is, I cant remove my gold dust day gecko, because I have no room left and nowhere to put him!!!,he hides from my cham most of the time, and my cham never seems bothered, my cham does not stress being picked up,and even examined,he is a very relaxed little Fischers!,I understand the concern,but I dont know what else I can do about my day gecko!,I mean I was thinking about a separater in their viv, but then how do I make things fair on both!,I do have a dilema here!,Ive had to try and get my day gecko to eat a bowl of little mealies,as I wont put crix in while Murphy is not right!,they nibbled his feet!.
All I wish is for my cham to get better,Im thinking of getting flukers repti-aid,someone helpful here mentioned, so I can build my cham stronger, as I dont think flies are as nutrious!?could this flukers product,give my cham the strength to walk with his back legs again???how long does it take for a cham to walk again????????
I really appricate whatever replies can be givin
thank you****

what did the vet say?? were xrays taken?? with out xrays ther is no way to know where the break/fracture is, how severe and if there is ah ope in hell of it healing. One would also need to know how severe his MBD (as i am assuming that a fall on a fairly large size boy (ie not a 2 week hatchling) resulting in this injury would be due to MBD!!!)>

What lighting does he have?? UVB/?? florescent- if so how tall is the cage?? what brand, what length?? when was it last replaced??? POWER SUN (metal halid)?? is much better in the aiding of absorption of calcium as it reaches further in it's rays (6' versus 12" is stronger, and by prety much everyone's agreemtn it shows much better results then the florescent. What type of calcium are you giving??? Nothing other then flies?? Variety is the psice of life. It insures better calcium levels, more protein etc by adding in more food stuffs.

So many questions so little time

You really want your cham to get better? Please take the well meant advice. I haven't seen any description of your lighting, gutloading, or supplementation either on your earlier posts or this series. This is probably where your major problems are. You can find some way to move your gecko. If you cannot do so you should either give the cham to someone who give him the care he needs or find a way to deal with his physical needs now. Can a friend or local herper house the gecko for a while? It is a lot easier to move a healthy animal and your cham is completely dependent on you. Your gecko may not only be stressing the cham (subtle stress is still a killer), but is introducing bacteria and possibly parasites to an already sick cham. They are not even from the same continent and carry completely different bacterial loads. I don't care how friendly they seem. When animals are ill they simply can't react normally to a stressor. You should never house two animals from completely different native habitats together. No product on the market will make this cham simply walk again. There is no quick fix for this. It will take months to heal if you are lucky. Frankly, your cham has been in need of different care for quite a while to have suffered such major injuries. Fractures like this are NOT NORMAL. Any insect you can feed him is only as healthy as the gutload you feed it with. If you feed houseflies correctly they will be just as nutritious as mealworms or crix. I find it very hard to believe your cham is as mellow as you say. I've kept fischeri too, and when healthy they are fairly reactive and territorial. They don't really seek out or enjoy handling and spend a lot of their energy charging around their space. There is a point where most chams simply don't have the energy to react to handling or disturbance. It isn't tameness or acceptance, it is weakness and apathy. This cham is preoccupied enough that it is probably not reacting to anything as it normally would. Don't get me wrong, I am not trying to antagonize you and I try to be understanding when giving advice on this forum. This situation is very bad and none of us can help your cham unless you listen. OK, had my say. For excellent articles on nutrition that are not just MY unwanted opinion, go to www.herpnutrition.com, www.adcham.com, www.chameleonnews.com.

Gecko Gal's post is the only one I replied to for several days due to the fact that I was very ill with viral menengitis and it makes you so light sensitive that you feel like your head will split open when you look at the computer screen. I still took the time to write and beg her to separate those two animals.

I have day geckos also and I am sure there is some type of cheap caging that would not be too big that she could put the gecko in. No cham in that condition especially should be with any other animal. Hardware stores carry cheap light fixtures that she could use for a heat bulb ( a regular clear bulb is fine for heat) She could also buy one of those fluorecent uv bulbs that fit in a regular clamp light socket for the day gecko.