there's a thread or two on these subjects on the kingsnake forum that would be worth checking out by anyone interested in those subjects and how they relate to milksnakes. I've gotten a lot of good ideas from some of the posts.
one thread starts at:
http://forums.kingsnake.com/view.php?id=680742,680742
read the whole thread and i think you'll have some interesting new ideas to consider.
peace
terry


