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My female Henk Sindar, layed an infertile egg 4 days ago

PHEve Jan 14, 2005 06:53 PM

on a branch. Today I saw her down the bottom, with her back end kind of buried in the sphagnum moss, just sitting there half covered. Bright eyes and fine looking otherwise.

I figured she was probably laying another egg. So I waited a few hours and went back, she had left and was sleeping on a limb.
I looked everywhere through the moss but found nothing.

Think shes just preparing to lay again?
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Replies (11)

umop_apisdn Jan 14, 2005 08:34 PM

doh! get to work sindar! at times it seems like the difficulty in breeding uros is getting the males to copulate. i've had a couple of lazy males, and i really think i would have had some pietschmanni eggs by now if my male showed the least bit of interest in the females. they're huge and fat and their chalk sacs are only now deflating, after being quite large for a few months. they even make calls when the male gets near or walks over them, but ive never seen him take any true interest or even come close to mounting. tell barkley he's got a girl to take care of!

viper69 Jan 14, 2005 10:46 PM

My male thinks his only job is to eat crickets, watch the female eat crickets, and sleep.

My female sacs are HUGE...This male isn't interested plain and simple. Maybe after afew months when it starts to warm up..I have given up looking though.
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Uroplatus sikorae 1.1
Uroplatus henkeli
Ball python
Hogg Island Boa Constrictor
Several species of tarantula

flamedcrestie Jan 15, 2005 10:29 AM

haha, that's exactly what my problems are. the males are taking no interest in the females.
i'll watch both the mossy and lineatus females wave their tails and jump all over the enclosure trying to entice the males, only to be dissapointed later on with a bunch of infertile eggs.
i tried introducing another male lineatus so it was 2.1 for some competition. they get along like there's no problem and live together like it's a group of .3 or something. any tips would be GREATLY appreciated.

Leland Jan 14, 2005 10:00 PM

Are you sure they are infertile? They usually don't bury the eggs if they're infertile.
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Leland
"Captive Bred Geckos from Around the World"
www.dwgeckos.com

boy Jan 15, 2005 04:07 AM

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boy Jan 15, 2005 04:41 AM

eve,

Ignore her when she gets ready to lay and spray the her cage a little extra in between sittings like that. Add some extra foliage as well. My ebanaui won't lay unless I put lots of things for her to hide under or if the humidity is too low. I use silk foliage because dried leaves tend to mold up on me for some reason, not sure why to be honest. might be location and lack of uv light for a while there.

Also, talk to Ben. he's giving me great info on most Uro's.

cheers

PHEve Jan 15, 2005 11:49 AM

you are all saying the males seem disinterested, WHY ! Must be a reason, thats not very natural is it?

And my Sindar is in with 2 males. She DID lay one good egg in august this past summer. It was buried, and had a nice pattern.
Was just beautiful in everyway EXCEPT, where they had apparently jumped on it and cracked it. I never knew it was there :0(

So I guess another thing I'm saying is, its seems she lays one infertile, and one fertile.???? This is only her second time laying since I got her last year.

Thanks Jason, for the misting her info while sitting there.
And Yes, maybe Ben can shed some light on whats shes doing.

Hey BEN.............................
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bsmith251 Jan 15, 2005 09:43 PM

I do a number of things to condition my pairs for breeding, but I think in your case (depending on what your temps and humidity are now), and in any uninterested males case I would separate the pair/trio out individually and kick up the temp and humidity a little bit. You could probably get away with leaving them like this for a couple months, but in the wild they would experience a longer seasonal period than this. During this period, heavily feed and fill your female full of calcium. Leave the temps and humidity high (76-78 degrees/90-100% humidity), reunite them and wish for the best.

I have had "uninterested" males in the past and I've used this exact same method. In one out of three cases I observed copulation the night of reintroduction. In another case I never observed copulation, but did eventually get fertile eggs and offspring. I have just recently introduced the other pair and it’s to early to tell what is going to happen with them. I am fairly certain she is gravid as she is gaining significant weight.

Also, last season, a local Zoo used a cool down period with pairs separated for a more natural duration. This was followed by a warmer period before and prior to introductions and they now have hatchling Uro’s coming of their ears. I don’t think its coincidence that this method resulted in significantly more hatchlings as compared to the years past. Just my two cents…
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Ben

bsmith251 Jan 15, 2005 09:49 PM

Although that info was pertaining to the fimbriatus complex, it is applicable to the ebenaui group as well.
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umop_apisdn Jan 15, 2005 11:25 PM

im gonna take your advice...ive noticed both males and females seem more eager when they're newly introduced, and lately thats what ive been seeing, and that what i attribute the 1 phant egg i have so far this season to. i noticed copulation the first few nights they were introduced, but it eventually tapered off. i think i might break them back down into small groups for a while then reintroduce them to see if there are any benefits to trying that. ill definitely keep it in mind to keep my males "interested."

PHEve Jan 16, 2005 10:48 AM


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