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*Pic* Ringneck Snake Hibernaculum

HerperHelmz Jan 17, 2005 03:09 PM

Gives you an inside view as to the luxury my northern ringnecks are brumated in lol.

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Ritas Jan 22, 2005 01:39 PM

Do you keep them together? I ask because read they eat each other.
Rita

HerperHelmz Jan 23, 2005 03:57 PM

Hey,

Don't ever believe that ringneck snakes will eat other ringnecks, they won't. A few times, I have kept a couple of ringneck snakes together, usually hatchlings, but sometimes a couple adults are kept together. And I have yet to have a ringneck attack another ringneck(although I could imagine a feeding accident happening easily). I have heard 1 account of a ringneck eating another ringneck, a herper in AZ found 2 green colored regal ringneck snakes, 1 with a ring and 1 without, and I'm pretty sure the ringed one ate the other.

In that pic, I have 0.1.1. in that tank, my 20" northern, and a little 8" aberrant northern found near my area in the summer.

Mike
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Ritas Jan 26, 2005 02:15 PM

Oh I have a book on snakes its native snakes and thats were I read they eat other snakes so imagined they would ofcourse eat each other.
I am glad to hear this because thinking of getting two this Spring . Do you see them much at night or mostly hide like most small snakes?
do you use undertank heater for them or overhead?
How is it they eat other snakes but not each other?
thanks.
Rita

HerperHelmz Jan 26, 2005 03:37 PM

I cannot explain why they won't eat each other, they just won't. Alot of the ringnecks I've had would come out in the daytime, some would bask too, under a U.V. light or a heat lamp. I recommend u.t.h for ringnecks, on one side of the enclosure, depending on what room temperature is to begin with, as they only need a 75 to 83 degrees F enclosure. I've only used heat lamps a few times with ringnecks, whenever I didn't have a heat pad available I would put a heat lamp over head the tank, and the snake would often bask.

Ringnecks will eat other snakes, but it depends on the sub-species in question, regals will prey only on lizards and snakes in the wild, on the other hand, northerns will prey mainly on salamanders and worms, although I've had a few of them prey on small snakes as well. All of the western ssp will prey on lizards and snakes, the ringnecks in the south will prey mainly on lizards/skinks and worms.

Mike

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Ritas Jan 26, 2005 03:54 PM

Thanks for the great info. I am thinking of something like a 20 gallon long for 2 ringnecks glad two can be housed together.
Rita

HerperHelmz Jan 26, 2005 05:54 PM

A 20 gallon is actually a little big. A 10 gallon could easily house a pair of adult ringneck snakes, maybe even a trio, depending on sub-species. What sub-species were you looking to get and I can tell you about them....

Mike
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Ritas Jan 27, 2005 10:01 AM

I am not sure what type of ringnecks they are. I do know they arent the regal types. The area pet store carries them around Spring so imagine collected legal or not from the area (New Jersey).
I have the empty 20 long allready thats why opted for that not to mention its more room to add driftwood,etc than the 10.
My plan was to get two and use under tank heat (one side of tank) a floursecent light over the screen(wanted a couple of live potted plants) and 1 or two pieces of driftwood.
You think thats ok? My biggest concern was that they ate each other but you cleared that up .
Rita

HerperHelmz Jan 27, 2005 01:40 PM

Sounds fine, but in a 20 gallon tank, there is a lower chance that they'll venture out in the open to look for food.

Mike
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Ritas Jan 27, 2005 06:06 PM

I was thinking of feeding earthworms. What do you think -do you think thats ok for long term care?

Rita

HerperHelmz Jan 28, 2005 05:19 PM

Before you think about what you will feed them, you first need to find out what sub-species you are getting. For example, northern ringnecks prey mainly on worms and salamanders, while regals will prey only on snakes and lizards, and will not look at salamanders or worms as prey. Each sub-species has it's own favorite prey item.

Worms are not bad for long term care, I've fed mine just about everything out there. I've even had southern ringneck snakes eat fish.

Mike
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Ritas Jan 28, 2005 08:45 PM

The pet store gets them in around March/April. I will see if they know the sub species than but I doubt they will.
I know regal they arent but thats it. I was on your site(liked it). I notice you keep an array of American snakes that arent to popular.
I also like the small American snakes . We have water snakes in this area and I have seen a few huge snapping turtles but I have never seen smaller snakes but imagine they are here. Though I dont exactly go in the woods either .

Rita

HerperHelmz Jan 29, 2005 08:47 AM

Yeah I keep snakes that alot of people won't look at twice. I'm attempting to push them into the pet market, because there are actually alot of people out there that keep them and people that want to keep them.

Mike
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Ritas Jan 29, 2005 02:25 PM

I imagine some of the smaller snakes are actually harder to breed then the bigger kings,boas,etc?
Rita

HerperHelmz Jan 29, 2005 05:03 PM

Actually it's the same, except for the size differences between smaller snakes vs. boas, etc. Smaller eggs, smaller clutches, but they all go through the same processes.

Mike
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