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and look what happens to the forum!!! its full of a bunch of trolls that dont no anything about condas, afrocks that are star gazing and questions i thought we answered 3 months ago. lets start at the top for the trolls well i cant much about them and still be a memeber of ks so we will skip them and go to the next. now from what i read i think u just moved the afrock in to the cage and it might just be looking around or in shed or smells food. monitor him and move him in to another cage and see how he is. and finally giants in the mist, retics are the longest snakes in the world condas are the biggest just imagin the pizza guy 6'5 150 pounds next to the pizza buyer 5'10 300 pounds which one is bigger the pizza buyer. no one really nose what the biggest conda is becouse not many people keep them at adult size and dead condas mean nothing to no one.

CrazyCody

o yea i almost forgot that conda track u seen in costa rica might have bin made by a boat ::speeks in really silent voice so only u can hear:: (anacondas dont live on the beach or costa rica)
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I'm CrazyCody KadunkKadunk!!! I'm a herp god!!!

Kadunk was here

CrazyCody

lol. I just put pretty much the same thing on the thread below, just in a big ole paragraph. lol. Oh well. How's that spider doin?
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Justin

I think you could give me a little more credit than that. There is a big difference between examining a new enclosure and blatant staring into nothingness for extended periods of time. I also said I was not thinking extremely hard about this and was going to wait until after feeding to see if the problem persisted. I all ased for was a few second opinions. Not the solid gold word of master cody : )

sorry about that gavin i did not relize u where the one that posted the afrock thread. i thought it was a little odd that there was an afrock question but i was kinda steemed about the trolls. justin the spider stopped with the building of mountins and molted and lost a leg in the molt. and if it seemed i was kinda angry about the conda on the beach thing sorry about that i was stateing facts and was kinda pissed with the trolls sorry about that.

CrazyCody

O' YEA!! i almost for got good to see u back around Renee
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I'm CrazyCody KadunkKadunk!!! I'm a herp god!!!

Kadunk was here

CrazyCody

man...

people on this forum are really kind of rude about a simple mistake

I didn't say I saw an anaconda on the beach
I said we were warned to stay off the beach due to a large snake and then another tourist told us it was an anaconda... the tracks were large
So it wasn't an anaconda, it was a large snake though... or else they wouldn't have told us to stay off the beach with the entrance blocked by animal control.

I already said I don't know anything about them, that's why I asked! I'm starting to regret it!
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Alexandria Neonakis
Owner of:
Olivia the Female Green Ig
Maize(f) and Onyx(m) the cornsnakes
Peter(m) and Lois(f) the Leopard Geckos

People in this forum are not rude. I sated there was no anaconda on the beach, cody explained why. Maybe you are sensing some hostility because these calm waters were flooded with people coming in from the ball python forum ripping apart an active member of this forum who likely has more experience with boids than any person fireing at him. If they were to ask Rich very frequently will adress to people the dangers of housing snakes together and never advises to do so. His photographs are taken under the supervision of a very experienced boid keeper. Had people been polite about the issue they were adressing they may have not only understood Richs position, but possibly learned something as well.

I asked a question on that thread, which hasn't been answered, asking if they were permanently housed together.

The reason I asked is because I own both Royal python's and 1 yellow anaconda and would never have considered putting them together(as dont they require different husbandry needs) or even allowing them to interact. So I asked a question to further my knowledge, if that is considered trolling then so be it.

I'm new here and will try my best not to stand on anymore 'experts' toe's.

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Stop the world-I want to get off!

I got it, thanks for replying.

You've said rich explained his position several times before. I know it can be a long arduous process to explain things over and over again... Can you send me to a link to an old post which explains his reasoning and experience with these snakes?

I still don't understand how he can play the "Do as I say but not as I do" game, but I'm willing to read... and learn something if theres good information to be had.

Alinda Buckingham
Iowa State Veterinary Student

I am not going to try and fight for rich all day and thus take away from productivity in the forum. I have posted quotes he has said in the past on the thread. You can also go back to page 5 i think when I brought it up a while back. To the other person. I would not house an anaconda and a royal thegether as i have watched snakes (especially anacondas) eat one another. Rich would also say the same. He is aware of his risks but he has also raised these animals and spends a ton of time understanding them. I have one anaconda I would allow my sugar gliders to play with because I am that sure she would not eat them. No other snake would I ever let a glider go near. Either way, I have not put the 2 together for any time because there is no need so that is kind of pointless. I would ask Rich, maybe by email or whatever about his experience and reasoning. My only problem was the person who posted in ball pythons and other forums to come check out the idiot in the anaconda forums and post how terrible and stupid he is. And then you have a bunch of follwing idiots coming in and disrupting a productive forum with the crap. The reason so many reptle laws are passing is because nobody can even stick up for each other nor has the skills to fight against or even try and push for responsible keeping. Rich doesnt seel venomous or large constrictors to irresponsible people who will be in the news and hurting us. He simply does his thing, with his snakes, with his experience and people are carrying torches through kingsnake when there is so many more productive things they can be doing. I will voice more about this later on, but not in here.

I thought this was a push for responsible pet keeping...

I just know how many newbies are also roaming the board, and have seen too many posts where kids are wanting to save time and money by keeping two animals together, generally with no knowledge of the second animal other than the fact that they saw it in a shop and think they can afford the initial costs of buying the animal.

Its sad what people will try these days, and the posts were an automatic reaction to what was thought to be ridiculous care of species with varying needs.

I see now that this guy cares for his animals, but I will never believe what he is doing is right. There are good reasons not to keep animals that way, and people wanting to cut corners will see those photos and want try it too. By posting photos, he's setting a bad example, and although he may very well be a better keeping than I originally thought, I'm still not convinced that he's giving his animals the VERY best because even he admitted in another post that his animals are at risk, slim as he believes that risk to be.

It is not so much the concern people have. I have also adressed Rich with questions about his photos. I am also not one to keep any animals together because I have to many snakes to work with such a risk. My problem was the way people came in and attempted to slam Rich and the name calling and the comments about how he should be reported. It is deffinitely alright to have an opinion and it is alright to share your concern. I have a huge problem though with the conduct all over Kingsnake. I quickly react to it when it tries to find its way into here. Like I mentioned before, this is a productive and respectfull forum and I would like to see it stay that way. Seeing posts in the ball python and the burmese forum to come in here and slam this guy is completely out of line and everyone that blindly followed should be ashamed. It is certainly alright to share your opinion...but please keep it respectfull. I believe that person was removed from KS since it wasnt long before ALL their posts in every forum were removed in a matter of a minute.

admit new knowledge into your brain, why should I waste my time by answering you? I would if there was a chance of teaching you anything about this situation, but it sounds like your mind is closed. Sorry.

` My old Ball does have a comment on your attitude, however.

LOLOLO

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Stop the world-I want to get off!

Sorry, I obviously came across the wrong way, and now you're being defensive. Completely understandable. I know you've explained yourself a million times, and it sucks having to tell one more nobody why you do things the way you do.

Here's the deal... I was appalled by your photos when I saw them. My first reaction was to jump on the bandwagon with everyone else, because I saw what you were doing as the worst possible way to care for those animals. I won't lie about that. Now, your reaction to me is that I'm a complete dumbass who has no idea what I'm talking about, and I'm not worth your time. If you're still reading this, let me try to change your mind.

I was shocked by how many people stuck up for you, and if they can respect you, then maybe I should take a second look. I'm a Veterinary student, and I see and hear crazy things all the time. Anything can and will happen in a veterinary medical career. As a future caretaker of reptiles, I'm very interested in any kind of information people have about animals, especially behavior, because you can't find that sort of thing in a book or a care sheet. I'm interested in you, because you're doing something different, and I'm interested in what makes your animals different, and what you've done observation wise to learn about their behaviors. All I want is the story, and I know it'll probably be long, and whatever you think of me, fine. We both had wrong impressions of the other person. If its too much work, post a link to old posts. If thats too much work, tell me to bug off, and I'll do a search for posts you've made in the past. All I'm doing is looking for the truth, because according to all your defenders, my first impression wasn't it.

Nevermind... I'm doing my own research, you've done plenty of explaining already. I'm finding the info more easily than I thought I would.