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What was your first elapid? and some other ?'s

wesss Jan 18, 2005 10:50 PM

What species are you currently working with?
How long have you been invoved with elapids?
Have you ever been bitten?
What is your favorite elapid?
What in your oppinion is the most dangerous elapid?
What in your oppinion is the least dangerous?
Is your favorite snake of all tinme an elapid? What is yur fav?

Thanx in advance for all replies

Replies (5)

Scott Eipper Jan 19, 2005 03:11 AM

Wess,

Yes, I have been bitten.

As for what I currently keep: Acanthophis cummingi, A. lancasteri, Notechis scutatus, Oxyuranus scutellatus, O. microlepidotus, Pseudechis australis, P. colletti, P. guttatus, P.porphyriacus, Pseudonaja textilis... I have scaled down on the number of species and are now more interested in individual species group.

Most dangerous.....the one you are presently dealing with...but to pick a species....one of my Coastal Taipans will chase you across the room...some are really quiet and others are the devil incarnate!

Least Dangerous...depends...you have plenty of small elapids that are barely able to envenomate a person such as Simoselaps and Brachyaspis.....for a large and "Significantly venomous" type of elapid...probably a Pseudechis colletti is a good starter.

My first Elapid...Notechis scutatus..not a great first choice!

Regards,
Scott Eipper

Jeremy G Jan 19, 2005 08:51 AM

"What species are you currently working with?"

The elapids I keep are as fallows:
Aspidelaps lubricus/Aspidelaps scutatus/Naja pallida/Naja kaouthia

"How long have you been invoved with elapids?"
5 years now

"Have you ever been bitten?"
Once but not from an elapid. Was tagged by a baby Agkistrodon contortrix while assist feeding. Stupid mistake I hope will not be duplicated.

"What is your favorite elapid?"
My favorite genera are Oxyuraus and Aspidelaps

"What in your oppinion is the most dangerous elapid?"
The one biteing me If you mean which one I would least like to be stuck in a small room with, O.hannah (king cobra) D.polylepis (blk mamba) or O.s.scutellatus (Coastal Taipan)

"What in your oppinion is the least dangerous?"
No such thing. Any venomous snake is dangerous. Some of the less toxic smaller species in Austraila and PNG are regarded as not likely to kill yu but on the same note, you could have an allergy to their venom and be killed quicker then those who died from Taipan bites!

"Is your favorite snake of all tinme an elapid? What is yur fav?"

The Coastal Tiapan

Thanx in advance for all replies

NP. Good luck in your studies

Regards,
Jremy

Jeremy G Jan 19, 2005 08:55 AM

BTW, my first elapid was a neonate Aspidelaps lubricus infuscatus
(Coral Cobra)

Chance Jan 19, 2005 10:33 AM

>>What was your first elapid?

Hatchling Sri Lankan spectacled cobra (N. naja "pollyocellata".

>>What species are you currently working with?

None any longer, but I have personally kept and/or worked with: Dendroaspis angusticeps (2 specimens), D. viridis (2), D. polylepis (1), Oxyuranus scutellatus canni (3), Hemachatus haemachatus (1), Naja naja (3), N. kaouthia (4), N. siamensis (5), N. sumatrana (1), N. melanoleuca (1), N. nigricollis (2), N. mossambica (2), and one very nasty Ophiophagus hannah owned by a friend.

>>How long have you been invoved with elapids?

Nearly 4 years.

>>Have you ever been bitten?

Never by anything venomous.

>>What is your favorite elapid?

Probably O. scutellatus or D. viridis.

>>What in your opinion is the most dangerous elapid?

In my very personal opinion, O. scutellatus or O. s. canni take the cake easily. Giant fangs, huge venom load, extremely toxic venom, propensity for multiple quick strikes (delivering many times over a lethal dose each time), very large adult size, speed, agility, intelligence; I guess to me, they have it all.

>>What in your opinion is the least dangerous?

This is a very tough question, and one sure to spark some flames. I guess I would have to either say, for us here in the US, probably local Micrurus species because of their tendency not to bite, secretive nature, availability of AV if they do bite, and the average reaction to their venom when they do envenomate (usually very little reaction). Otherwise, most Aspidelaps seem somewhat easy to deal with despite the lack of AV. Also, and this is by no means a recommendation as they have an extremely nasty venom, but Hemachatus (Rinkhal's spitter) can become extremely docile in captivity. The one animal I was fortunate enough to acquire was nutty for the first month or so that I had him, then calmed to the point of nearly being 'tame' (and I hate to use that word in reference to any reptile).

>>Is your favorite snake of all time an elapid? What is your fav?

This is another toughie. At a point not long ago, I would have said yes in a heartbeat. But there are so many species I've worked with that I like very equally that it's tough to pen down. I love taipans and they will probably always be my number 1, but retics and olive pythons have gained a lot of ground.

>> Thanx in advance for all replies

You're welcome.
-Chance
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1.1 Olive Pythons
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rbc Jan 22, 2005 10:17 AM

1. First elapid: Parasuta gouldii
2. Currently keep: Acanthophis wellsi
3. How log involveed with elapids: 25 yrs
4. Favourite elapis: oooooh tricky question, probably the one I cant have eg Hoplocephalus bungaroides and a hundered others
5. Most dangerous: Hmmmm maybe Pseudonaja textilis (based on Australian stats).
6. Least venomous: Neelaps calonotus would have to be down there with the least of them.
7. Favoutire snake: not an elapid, its pit vipers - bothriechis or trimerisurus etc.

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