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Big question on localities, how big, how to recognize, etc.

Drosera Jan 21, 2005 01:47 AM

Hi, I'm hoping this will become a valuable archive post. Anyway, I'm planning to get a scrub python (smaller locality I can handle without needing a spotter) within the next few years, when I'm in a stable, orderly situation and have some more reptile experience. I've scanned forums and still have this question.
What are the different localities like? (those which you know about) Have you noticed anything temperament-wise between them? What in your experience are the different markings and sizes? Any different care requirements in how are they kept? (aside from the logical enclosure size for the animal) And are there any surefire ways to recognize where it's from when the animal's origin is unrecorded?
Even a small partial answer will be pored over with interest. Thank you.
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jasonmattes Jan 22, 2005 02:02 AM

Well i dont know alot about the different locals but i will try and help.
I have a wamena local scrub and it has a pink tongue and white labials which seems to be a characteristic of only wamena's
Mine is wc and has a pretty decent temperment. As long as you are careful with handling you should be able to avoid a bite.
Hooking out of the cage is necessary with mine unless you want a bite. I think this is the case with all scrubs though.
I'm not sure the max lenght but i think all are pretty managable with one person, the australian scrub is the biggest if i remember correctly, i think the record is around 28 ft
You should remember that if you have a 12ft scrub its still going to be fairly skinny, not thick like a burm
Branches or somthing to climb on is necessary in my opinion.
Care is pretty simple..i keep a hot side of around 85 and then mine can either climb to a cooler spot or just move to the other side.
Scrubs have become one of my favorite snakes and i hope to eventually have more than just the one i have now
Good luck

Jason

mattbrock Jan 24, 2005 09:13 AM

Barnecks, aside from the Aussie scrubs, are the largest often reaching 12-15'. Southern and highland locales can reach 10-14'. The island forms such as Arus are generally smaller between 6-9', Moluccans are 7-12'(heard of larger ones though), with Tanimbars being the smallest(usually around6-7'). Not enough Halmeheras are in captivity to really know a lot about them.

Drosera Jan 24, 2005 10:42 PM

This is great! Can't stop drooling over these animals.
Few more questions. How besides length can you tell the different localities apart? And are there any books or magazine articles that talk about scrubs?
Thank you everyone!
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1.1 parents
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mattbrock Jan 25, 2005 07:21 AM

The only book that gives any good info is the Barker's Pythons of The World:Australian addition. It talks about Kinghorni( Aussie Scrub).

Bar-necks are generally silver/black/tan with golden bands and dark black bars across the neck. Southerns are tan/orange/yellowish lacking the bars in any great detail. If they have them they are very faint. They have a broken pattern like the last picture that was posted. The highland locales such as Wamenas are generally a darker version of Southerns, being brown, and sometimes almost black. Moluccans are yellow as sub-adults, with some males maintaining the yellow into maturity, most females turn brown. They can be patternless or have lots of pattern. One phase is axanthic, meaning it lacks yellow pigment. And TAnimbars can be yellow or silver and patternless or patterned. They are quite variable.

Drosera Jan 28, 2005 01:20 PM

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0.2 chickens
0.2 dog mutts (half ownership, only mine when they misbehave)
0.1 Halflinger horse
0.0 Arizona Mountain Kingsnake (coming soon)
1.1 parents
Still searching for 1.0 WC human

CJinNH Jan 24, 2005 06:40 PM

I have acquired a female Amethystine scrub, she is about 2 years old and just shy of 12 feet although this species has been known to reach lengths of 28 feet. She is dog tame but I still use a hook to remover her from her cage, becasue she has strong feeding response. The Amethystine Python is the one mentioned as the Aussie Python in previous posts. If you are interested in the Amethystine python then check out the following link I found it helpful and informative. http://www.smuggled.com/BriBar16.htm

Attached is a picture of "sparkles" and my wife, she is name sparkles due to the diamond pattern and her irridescent scales.

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