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Trans Peco Rat snakes

sallie_keeper Jan 22, 2005 01:03 AM

Hi all, I am looking for general care info on the Trans Peco.. Have friend that has a breeding pair and I think they are gorgeous!!! Very interested in getting one or more babies this year...

I have only dealt with corns, so do not know much about rats.. but these guys seem very nice for ratsnakes. Is their care pretty much standard colubrid setup?? Anything special?? And is there much of a market for them?? I do not wish to breed if not much interest in them.. (Still plan on getting a pair though)..

Any info is great,

thanks in advance,

harpy

Replies (4)

thmpr134 Jan 22, 2005 06:27 PM

The setup for these guys is similar to a corn setup. Probably the biggest diference is they require much lower humidity (25% or under). You also may want to keep them a little warmer than a corn (78-88 with a gradient). I usually water mine once a week when feeding and leave the water dish in overnight then remove in the morning to reduce ambient humidity.
There is a market for them, but it won't be a huge moneymaker. You should be able to sell any babies you produce for $30-75 pretty easily.
They are a great pick and I wish you luck with them.

Bryan

>>Hi all, I am looking for general care info on the Trans Peco.. Have friend that has a breeding pair and I think they are gorgeous!!! Very interested in getting one or more babies this year...
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>>I have only dealt with corns, so do not know much about rats.. but these guys seem very nice for ratsnakes. Is their care pretty much standard colubrid setup?? Anything special?? And is there much of a market for them?? I do not wish to breed if not much interest in them.. (Still plan on getting a pair though)..
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>>Any info is great,
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>>thanks in advance,
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>>harpy
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dustyrhoads Jan 23, 2005 07:29 PM

Hi Harpy,

Definitely keep them warm and dry. I live in Houston where it is really humid and they get used to the humidity after awhile. But with a couple of my subocs, I had to remove the water dish for a couple of days at a time, because a little "wheazing" indicated too high humidity/and or too low temps. I no longer have to do that. They became accustomed.

They can stand humidity. There are quite a few established breeders in humid parts of the country (like Houston and Florida) that are breeding these snakes with ease. As wild snakes, that makes some sense because during the daytime, they sleep in bat caves out in west Texas, and those caves are usually fairly humid.
Ventilation is the most paramount requirement for these guys. As long as they are kept in a screened-top enclosure or a Freedom Breeder(or anything ventilated), then they do well.
Most people that breed the color/pattern morphs(blonde, silvers, and albinos) sell out quickly. The albinos sell for @ $2000 each.
And as far as "herpetoculturing" of morphs goes, these guys are still in their infancy. I am one of those working towards producing a "snow suboc" which has not happened yet. Even the normals are highly variable in color with some localities expressing axanthism, hi-yellow, brick reds and even orange. Being one of the most docile of snakes, even wild ones, I'd say that they have a great furure. Get some! They are rewarding.
Hope that I have been of some help.
Dusty Rhoads

sallie_keeper Jan 24, 2005 11:47 PM

Thanks for the great replys.. I do like the look of the normal phase TPRS.. I have never even seen the other phases.. I think I will definately go for a pair if I can afford it.. Who knows what might happen...Guess I will be snake shopping this summer

thanks again,

Harpy
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dustyrhoads Jan 25, 2005 01:02 AM

Harpy,

Don Soderberg's South Mountain website has a few good pics of different phases of subocs. The blonde pattern is completely different than the normal, but just as handsome. I am expecting a few blondes and possible silvers this season. I am breeding a blonde male that is 66% poss. het for silver with a silver female. At the very least, I will have blondes, het for silver, if all goes well. I may have some normals available as well.
If you would like to know a few other breeders' contact info, then let me know.

Good luck,
Dusty Rhoads

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