Reptile & Amphibian Forums

Welcome to kingsnake.com's message board system. Here you may share and discuss information with others about your favorite reptile and amphibian related topics such as care and feeding, caging requirements, permits and licenses, and more. Launched in 1997, the kingsnake.com message board system is one of the oldest and largest systems on the internet.

Click here to visit Classifieds
Click for ZooMed
Click here for Dragon Serpents

Ok!"Opinions wanted!"

Hypoboa1 Jan 22, 2005 06:46 PM

I was bored an sitting around on a saterday night so I figured I would pull out the old dictionary an look up some synonyms!That way if Raindrop's litter shows deviant's!Then I am one step towards nameing my new line of oddly varient boa's!An I will be honest I got a little bit angry!So If everyone can get along an not turn this into an argument,I felt this would be a good discussion for a boring saterday night!Ok,pretty much any new morph that has showed co-dominent trait has had to choose a new name for his/her line of boa to save face of a war breaking loose on this forum!Right?Well anyways to the point very often a synonym is choosen to name this new line!Striped line has done been choosen ABERRANT,WELL THAT TERM IS USED ON ANY BOA THAT SHOWS DEVIANT'S WEATHER IT IS GENETIC OR NOT!Sry,So that one wont work!Abby line,taken also,Sry if I spelled it wrong Mike!What else is their?NOTTA Thats what!I am not gonna name it my new deviant line,Dont like that!I think an I am pretty sure Mike took the last one an he had to break it down!If I am wrong then I do appologize ahead of time!I mean any Boa that has shown a genetic aberrant trait is done taken!Jungle[Gone],Striped line[Gone],Harlequin[Gone],Abby[Gone]Their is no more synonyms left unless maybe I look up the word in another language an then maybe I could slide aberrant by everyone in japanese,lol!An plus this now brings up another subject!Are their really that many genetically deviant boa's out their or maybe just maybe somewhere 10,15 or even 30 years ago their may be a link to all of them an we are just posting our names on them to make a bigger sale?ALL OPINION'S ARE VERY MUCH WELCOMED,GOOD OR BAD!Thanks Eric[Hypoboa]

-----
E&C's Exotic House of Reptiles

Replies (7)

ectothermz... Jan 22, 2005 10:32 PM

E- Don't take this the wrong way, I understand that you are excited for the upcoming litter and that you are anxious to name the 'new' line (and I'm excited for you!) I simply would be more cautious before you publicize this or begin to name these guys. In my opion it simply takes a little more then one breeding to really know the genetics behind what you have.

I'm in no way saying that you don't have something special, I'm just saying take it easy on the marketing for a while, until you know the in's and out's of what you are dealing with. (Genetically speaking)

Lastely in my opinion, it simply can't be that everyone's striped or abberant boas came from the same lineage. There are to many locals and areas that boas come from and like humans or any other living species there is genetic variance. Genetics are an amazing thing and they don't always translate they way you think they would.

I'm saying for example, my parents both have brown hair brown eyes, I have brown hair and brown eyes but my sister is blonde with blue eyes?(and smart!) So to tie this all together I'm saying that this will take a few generations to truely know the gene.

Take one of the offspring(male) breed it back to mom. Take one of the offspring breed it to another line. Breed the offspring together. See what you come up with and then worry about a name

Anyhow my thesis is over, ERIC best of luck with the litter and I hope you have many new wonderful additions soon.

All the best,
Justin Higgs
ECTOTHERMZ...

Hypoboa1 Jan 22, 2005 10:52 PM

>>E- Don't take this the wrong way, I understand that you are excited for the upcoming litter and that you are anxious to name the 'new' line (and I'm excited for you!) I simply would be more cautious before you publicize this or begin to name these guys. In my opion it simply takes a little more then one breeding to really know the genetics behind what you have.
>>
>>I'm in no way saying that you don't have something special, I'm just saying take it easy on the marketing for a while, until you know the in's and out's of what you are dealing with. (Genetically speaking)
>>
>>Lastely in my opinion, it simply can't be that everyone's striped or abberant boas came from the same lineage. There are to many locals and areas that boas come from and like humans or any other living species there is genetic variance. Genetics are an amazing thing and they don't always translate they way you think they would.
>>
>>I'm saying for example, my parents both have brown hair brown eyes, I have brown hair and brown eyes but my sister is blonde with blue eyes?(and smart!) So to tie this all together I'm saying that this will take a few generations to truely know the gene.
>>
>>Take one of the offspring(male) breed it back to mom. Take one of the offspring breed it to another line. Breed the offspring together. See what you come up with and then worry about a name
>>
>>Anyhow my thesis is over, ERIC best of luck with the litter and I hope you have many new wonderful additions soon.
>>
>>All the best,
>>Justin Higgs
>>ECTOTHERMZ...
I didn't take your post the wrong way,so don't think that!I completely understand the steps that I will have to take to prove out my boa genetically!An I have no problem with that at all!But I was trying to get a discussion going!That is all period!I know in my heart that Raindrop could drop a beautiful litter of normals very easily,an I also understand that I can raise up this normal male an breed him to see if the trait is recessive!My questions may be a bit confusing an maybe sometimes just down right stupid,but I do pay close attention to someone who is trying to help me!I understand!I said that in a post below I believe!An I dont see a thing in the world wrong with DREAMING!An while I was doing nothing I figured I would see what kind of names I could come with an I hit the wall that started this discussion!I am the only one that has the female so yea maybe someone could steal the name but not the line!An lets say raindrop produces 35 babies an 18 of them are awsomelly abberant,I know I still got 2 more years of breeding trials to go before I can dawn the name!Dang man I really whole heartdley take my time to post a discussion an I am still misunderstood,lol,I hate typing!An heck I thought it might be pretty dang kool if the forum could get together have a discussion an together come up with a name an maybe just maybe in 3 years whaen trials are done an a new line is proven,well Just use that name!Things like that are hard for me to come up with because of my disability!Especially when a wall as large as that one is put up!Go back an re read my post please!Heck well just name them feather boa's an be done with it!lmboooo!I am trying to take this lightley,Cause I really thing people on this forum were going to see me produce really abberant boa's an call them jungles,NOT WRONG ANSWER!I know what I have to do !Thanks again an Sry for the length of this post!Eric[Hypoboa]
-----
E&C's Exotic House of Reptiles

Randall_Turner Jan 22, 2005 11:03 PM

If you do end up proving them to be genetic why not call them Raindrop stripes? Or something along those lines?
-----
Randall L Turner Jr.
www.aircapitalconstrictors.com

ectothermz... Jan 23, 2005 12:23 AM

Ok, so maybe I did jump the gun, I apologize to you Eric, don't take that as a personal attack by any strectch of the imagination.

That being said, there is absolutely nothing wrong with thinking up names and looking for insite from people. I do the same thing but can never come up with anything worth a damn.

Hey Randy is right, why not raindrop stripe line? If she does it for you, pay some homage to the ole' girl!

Best,
Justin

Hypoboa1 Jan 23, 2005 12:41 AM

>>If you do end up proving them to be genetic why not call them Raindrop stripes? Or something along those lines?
>>-----
>>Randall L Turner Jr.
>> www.aircapitalconstrictors.com
>>

Thats exactly what the better half mentioned calling them[If the line proves out]I can here it now "I TOLD YOU SO!"My 13 year old daughter named her that!An I asked her why raindrop,because she dont have no markings like droplets!An she explained how when one is looking out the window why It was raining an a droplet would hit the window an roll down the glas leaving a trail!An I thought hey kiddo smart,I would have never thought of that!An hence her name!An Justin I never took no offence,I just wanted you to know That it took 7 months,duh me,lol!But I get it!An I have enjoyed an educated myself with every conversation I have had on any of my boa's!An I still have a whole lot of learning ahead of me!Especially with genetics!I know oh lord here we go again how long will this take to sink in!But I gotta learn it an I will!I personally feel I have came a long ways in my knowledge that I have learnt from you all,But still have a long path ahead of me also!An I thank you all!Hopefully,The next time I post Ill have some good news about a big litter of healthy babies!Eric[Hypoboa]
-----
E&C's Exotic House of Reptiles

morgans boas Jan 23, 2005 12:35 AM

Hypoboa's non-hypos - ha ha.
I'm sorry, I try to be funny, but I usually say things that are too dumb/corny to be funny.
Eric I wish you the best of luck with Raindrops up-coming litter. You'd better get a camera. If you don't, then I might have to loan you mine. Or better yet, I'll buy you one, and you can pay me back with the 2nd pick of the litter (you getting to have the 1st pick of course). NAAA , you just go & have yourself a nice healthy batch of "whatevers", and keep as many as desired.
I too had a very abberrant male who bred 5 females before dying. I'd get 1 or 2 from each litter with some type of abberancies, but not enough to consider it to be a co-dominant gene at work. He never came around to eating after the last female that he bred last year. I do have some offspring with different mothers that will get bred together to see if any of his traits will show in a recessive style. Time will tell.
I liked Randy's idea (I think it was Randy) of naming them Raindrop Boas. Then, when you breed Raindrops together, you can name them possible Thunder Storms ! ! ! The normals could be called Drizzles. Again, I'm no comedian. Best wishes to ya.
-----
--aka DMOG68

Hypoboa1 Jan 23, 2005 12:47 AM

>>Hypoboa's non-hypos - ha ha.
>> I'm sorry, I try to be funny, but I usually say things that are too dumb/corny to be funny.
>> Eric I wish you the best of luck with Raindrops up-coming litter. You'd better get a camera. If you don't, then I might have to loan you mine. Or better yet, I'll buy you one, and you can pay me back with the 2nd pick of the litter (you getting to have the 1st pick of course). NAAA , you just go & have yourself a nice healthy batch of "whatevers", and keep as many as desired.
>> I too had a very abberrant male who bred 5 females before dying. I'd get 1 or 2 from each litter with some type of abberancies, but not enough to consider it to be a co-dominant gene at work. He never came around to eating after the last female that he bred last year. I do have some offspring with different mothers that will get bred together to see if any of his traits will show in a recessive style. Time will tell.
>> I liked Randy's idea (I think it was Randy) of naming them Raindrop Boas. Then, when you breed Raindrops together, you can name them possible Thunder Storms ! ! ! The normals could be called Drizzles. Again, I'm no comedian. Best wishes to ya.
>>-----
>>--aka DMOG68

It felt good to laugh,Instead of stressing over everything!An I am sorry about your male!An I DEFINATLEY HAVE A CAMERA COMING ON THE 1st of the month!Thunderstorms an drizzels,Your to much,lmboooooooo!Thanks Eric[Hypoboa]
-----
E&C's Exotic House of Reptiles

Site Tools