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is there something odd sounding about an ad for "captive bred" females "hand picked out of hundreds" or thousands?

Is there really a place you can go to hand pick adult CB females where there are hundreds or thousands to choose from? I've seen hundreds and thousands at import houses.
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Jay A. Martin

LOL, I just read that someplace and thought the very same thing.

Jay,

I read that ad as well. I about sheet my drawers when I read it. Hell I wish there was a place I could go hand pick adult females from hundreds.
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Rob Trenor
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CB= Captive born, CBB= Captive Bred and Born. Captive born has always meant ( to me at least ) that the animals were wither hatched at the country of origin, or were from gravid Females that dropped on US soil. Captive Bred and Born meant that the Male and Female were bred in the US, and the resulting offspring were hatched in the US

In the old days, you were safe saying CB. If I remember correctly, CB used to mean captive bred. At any rate, it usually meant bred by a breeder, not imports. But still who would feed these for the year or two it would take to get upto 1k grams and then only sell for $100? Eitherway, it smells of offloading imports to me.
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Jay A. Martin

Yeah, they were captive bred on a farm in africa...the parasites were captive bred too...lol

I don't think they do any actual captive breeding on the "farms" in Africa. They dig up and harvest gravid females and already laid eggs. Knowing how hard it is to get a wild caught adult female to breed here I think they would have very little success digging them up before they where gravid and trying to get them to breed in captivity over there.

EricIvins has fallen victim to the confusion of terms that the importers propagate. CBB for "captive bred and born" came about because importers co-opted "cb" from "captive bred" to "captive born" to trick pet stores into thinking their product wasn't harvested out of the wild.

n/p

I understood the parasite part to be a joke (even if all too true) but a lot of people really do believe that they "farm" ball pythons in Africa.

I emailed the guy and said it sounded fishy. He wrote back saying he picked them out of hundreds of different cb balls over a period of time from various breeders. I wrote back that I would take one if he would gaurentee health and feeding but he never wrote back. I wonder why. AZZ hule!!

Kevin