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I know this shouldn't be a big deal, but it is bugging me. I asked a few people that have seen my creamsicle and asked them to tell me the difference betweem my creamsicle and the creamsicle in Anothony C's gallery. The only difference they saw was the fact that Anthony's is a darker orange, and mine has one black spot on the back. I don't know why Anthony says its not a creamsicle, maybe because it is as he says "one of the rarest colors in captivity..." but here is his....

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2.3.0 crested geckos (Speckles, Sandy, Squirt, Sunshine, Soldier)
0.1.0 Striped Cal. Kingsnake (Snuggles)
1.1.0 Green Iguanas (Sisco,Speedy)
1.1.0 Emperor Scorpions (Strongbad,Serenity)
0.1.0 Rose Hair Tanrantula (Sweets)
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Besides the one black spot on my creamsicle, and the fact that the gecko in the previous post is darker, why is this not a creamsicle? She is orange with the same yellow coloring on her back, it may not be cream but neither is Anthony's...

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2.3.0 crested geckos (Speckles, Sandy, Squirt, Sunshine, Soldier)
0.1.0 Striped Cal. Kingsnake (Snuggles)
1.1.0 Green Iguanas (Sisco,Speedy)
1.1.0 Emperor Scorpions (Strongbad,Serenity)
0.1.0 Rose Hair Tanrantula (Sweets)
RIP Star and Sal

I just wanted to chime in . Trying to get the pics of their true colors .Ive taken pics of my cresties until my wife has decided that Im a neglectful father for taking so many more of them than the family ! But the truth is the camera often misses a beat in the picture.
Deciding on a crestie Morph is always a work in progress. There can be so many traits and the colors so varied even in the same lizard . Its a judgement call at best.
I have a few I cant even decide what color they are .tiger patterns are often so faint ,dalmation spots so little and any irregularity whatsoever called a harley its practically impossible to really be sure of your morph.
I wouldnt worry about wether yours is a creamsicle or a red/fire ....its a great looking LIzard. Heck if Anthony was willing to buy it that should tell you all you need to know its in the top 10% of any lizard.

That is a very well said post...but it was bugging me. I couldn't see the difference and couldn't understand why people couldn't see that she is a creamsicle. Anthony said it is one of the rarest morphs in captivity... I know she is what he considers a creamsicle. The photography/color link I agree with. Her true colors look exactly like the creamsicle on Anthony's website, the only difference is she has a brighter orange, and the one on his website is more of a rust. Its no big deal but it was bugging me. I do thank you for a biased post and think you hit the nail on the head! - Joe
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2.3.0 crested geckos (Speckles, Sandy, Squirt, Sunshine, Soldier)
0.1.0 Striped Cal. Kingsnake (Snuggles)
1.1.0 Green Iguanas (Sisco,Speedy)
1.1.0 Emperor Scorpions (Strongbad,Serenity)
0.1.0 Rose Hair Tanrantula (Sweets)
RIP Star and Sal

. . . and why are you trying to call a nice two toned red crested a Cremescicle?

Say this slowly - "this is a hobby - it's supposed to be fun".

Hey bud, that's a nice looking crested in my book, anyway.

Peace bud!!
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Monte Meyer
Powergeckos
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anthonys is a creamsicle, yours isnt. it is very obvious in the pictures, yours does not have the color characteristics of a creamsicle, yours is more of a two tone orange/red.

its a nice gecko, but not a creamsicle.

e-mail allen repashy or vosjoli a picture of that gecko and they will also tell you it is not a creamsicle.

you can reach vosjoli at: giantgeckos.com

just click on the contact page.

First of all, there's no need for such a confrontational tone. What you call your gecko is up to you.

Creamsicle is a name that was borrowed from the cornsnake world. Cornsnake people use the name for their orange and white cornsnakes. They got the name from the cream filled, orange popsicles that were called Creamsicles. With that in mind, it makes sense that a "Creamsicle" Crested Gecko would be an orange and cream-white colored gecko.

You said yourself that your gecko is pale orange and yellow, which tells me that you probably had no idea where the "creamsicle" name came from. You just saw that you had a similar colored gecko and so you began calling yours a creamsicle. It's this kind of behavior that has caused the general public to become so confused about the names.

I personally wouldn't call your gecko a creamsicle, but in reality, the name doesn't mean anything about the attractiveness or quality or dollar value, so I'll leave it up to you as to what you call it.

Anyway, that's all the time that I can devote to this apparently fascinating subject. If you have any other questions, I'm sure some of our other members here can help explain things better.

Just for future reference, please don't post my photos on this forum or on any others. It's nothing personal...I have a disclaimer to that effect at the bottom of each page on my website.

Thanks,
Anthony
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Anthony Caponetto
www.ACreptiles.com

Anthony,You have to love this shi@.How you been?I will see you in April,and buy you a drink.
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Jodi L Aherns
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Hey Jodi. You know I love it.

If you think this is good, you should see some of the emails people send me. I think I'm gonna start sending out free boxes of crayons so people will quit asking what color their geckos are.

-Anthony

>>Anthony,You have to love this shi@.How you been?I will see you in April,and buy you a drink.
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>>Jodi L Aherns
>>Ground Gecko Freak
>>612.588.9329
>>612.802.3980
>>www.groundgeckofreak.com
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Anthony Caponetto
www.ACreptiles.com

what color my gecko is. I see her everyday so I was telling you what color she is. I know what a creamsicle corn snake is, and I know where the name came from. I shouldn't have said anything more about it I guess. The pictures do not show her colors well. I don't know why I bothered because it's her babies that I will be selling and not her. People can decide for themselves what color the babies are, I will not post the morph name, only pictures. And as far as being confrontational, if that's how it seemed I'll apologize. But I don't think you should have put that post about crayons cuzz it's kind of rude. I do apologize if I sounded confrontational though. And I didn't see the disclaimer about the pics, and I made sure I put "here is his..." won't happen again. Peace and this is really the last time I get into a discussion about what morph is what, because every pic looks different, geckos change colors throughout the day, and no matter what name we give them they are still beautiful. Peace out. -Joe
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2.3.0 crested geckos (Speckles, Sandy, Squirt, Sunshine, Soldier)
0.1.0 Striped Cal. Kingsnake (Snuggles)
1.1.0 Green Iguanas (Sisco,Speedy)
1.1.0 Emperor Scorpions (Strongbad,Serenity)
0.1.0 Rose Hair Tanrantula (Sweets)
RIP Star and Sal

what color my gecko is. I see her everyday so I was telling you what color she is. I know what a creamsicle corn snake is, and I know where the name came from. I shouldn't have said anything more about it I guess. The pictures do not show her colors well. I don't know why I bothered because it's her babies that I will be selling and not her. People can decide for themselves what color the babies are, I will not post the morph name, only pictures. And as far as being confrontational, if that's how it seemed I'll apologize. But I don't think you should have put that post about crayons cuzz it's kind of rude. I do apologize if I sounded confrontational though. And I didn't see the disclaimer about the pics, and I made sure I put "here is his..." won't happen again. Peace and this is really the last time I get into a discussion about what morph is what, because every pic looks different, geckos change colors throughout the day, and no matter what name we give them they are still beautiful. Peace out. -Joe
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2.3.0 crested geckos (Speckles, Sandy, Squirt, Sunshine, Soldier)
0.1.0 Striped Cal. Kingsnake (Snuggles)
1.1.0 Green Iguanas (Sisco,Speedy)
1.1.0 Emperor Scorpions (Strongbad,Serenity)
0.1.0 Rose Hair Tanrantula (Sweets)
RIP Star and Sal

Is the color on the dorsal surface of your gecko "cream-white"? The color on its tail looks "cream-white" but the color on the dorsal surface looks to be "creamy-pale-yellow." I would agree that the pattern on your gecko is more well-defined and a much cleaner, clearer example of the "creamsicle" crested gecko, but it looks to me like the other animal could be considered a "creamsicle" as well. And before I too am questioned, I just wanted to add that I owned a creamsicle for quite some time that looked nealry identical to the one picture on your website, so I am familiar with the pattern. I did know that the name came from the creamsicle frozen treat and very much so enjoyed them as a child.

It seems to me that the "creamsicle" issue is just like the issue of calling a crested "red." Red cresteds range from rusty to bright blood red to pale almost pastel pinks. These traits are all on a continuum, not a discrete "this is, this isn't" kind of scale. Perhaps you should just call yours a "pale creamsicle" and that would end the debate. But, it makes no sense for anyone on either side of the issue to be so up in arms / downright negative towards somebody else because of what somebody calls their crested gecko. It's a hobby we're all supposed to be enjoying, not fighting over .

Christopher

looking at your pic, i dont think its a creamsicle either. its not one particular thing. the entire coloration doesnt seem to fit the "cream" coloration. dont take offense to it, its just my opinion.

You're talking about this gecko?

>>looking at your pic, i dont think its a creamsicle either. its not one particular thing. the entire coloration doesnt seem to fit the "cream" coloration. dont take offense to it, its just my opinion.

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Anthony Caponetto
www.ACreptiles.com

no, i believe he's agreeing that the other " creamsicle" is not a creamsicle. not yours.

i see the difference between anthony's gecko and yours and while anthony states

"Creamsicle is a name that was borrowed from the cornsnake world. Cornsnake people use the name for their orange and white cornsnakes. They got the name from the cream filled, orange popsicles that were called Creamsicles. With that in mind, it makes sense that a "Creamsicle" Crested Gecko would be an orange and cream-white colored gecko.

You said yourself that your gecko is pale orange and yellow, which tells me that you probably had no idea where the "creamsicle" name came from. You just saw that you had a similar colored gecko and so you began calling yours a creamsicle."

looks to me your gecko is orange and yellow (may not be high yellow but a shade of yellow none the less) not creme (not even close since creme is an offshoot of white) so i guess yours is not a "cremecicle" either

but if you want to be special.... thats cool

I have my own ideas on what to call her, but I was just curiouse what every one else would. Let me know.

That bad-boy has to be called "Spicy Mustard 'n Mayo". . . .

Nice looking crested.
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Monte Meyer
Powergeckos
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Eli,

You know the definition of creamsicle. Your gecko is orange, but the dorsal pattern is also predominantly orange in color...not white. There is some white partial pinstripe stuff going on there, but genetically speaking, that's something totally different.

She does look a lot like some of the geckos I produce from my creamsicle projects, but she's not what I'd sell as a creamsicle. Orange geckos are fairly common, so the whole rarity of a true creamsicle is the white dorsal pattern. If you start looking for it, you'll notice that the white dorsal pattern is one of the rarest traits you'll see on a crested gecko, regardless of what color they are.

Again, I guess it all depends on how far you're willing to stretch the definition. As for me, I think I'll start calling mine orange and white fires (which is what they really are) and let the pictures do the talking.

-Anthony

>>I have my own ideas on what to call her, but I was just curiouse what every one else would. Let me know.
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Anthony Caponetto
www.ACreptiles.com

Anthony,
Thanks for leaving a post. If I had to call her anything I would have to say she was a Orange flame or a Orange and yellow flame. That's pretty much what I've always called her. I hope to produce a line of yellow creamsicles affectionatlly known as Lemon meringue's (well at least to me). I am also working on a fudgecicle project, but don't tell anyone
And I wish I had a um Red creamsicle project going, or do I? Hmmmmm mu ha ha ha. Yeah um ok I feel ok now. Anyway keep on herpen everyone.
-Eli

Just to change the subject, cuzz I'm obviously not the only one who's gotten tired of it...and how 'bout them patriots?

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2.3.0 crested geckos (Speckles, Sandy, Squirt, Sunshine, Soldier)
0.1.0 Striped Cal. Kingsnake (Snuggles)
1.1.0 Green Iguanas (Sisco,Speedy)
1.1.0 Emperor Scorpions (Strongbad,Serenity)
0.1.0 Rose Hair Tanrantula (Sweets)
RIP Star and Sal