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Hello, I get lots of emails of people asking me to update them on the Stripe Mojaves. Here is a picture of one of the 3 produced at 450 grams. This one is a Male.

In 04 I bred a Mojave male to a NORMAL female Ball that was Striped. She looked a little different, but not anything special, and just a very nice NORMAL. I got 7 eggs. 4 Normals, and 3 Striped Mojaves. The normals were normal, but the Mojaves were All Striped. 1 of the Normals did have striping but it wasn't as dramtic as the MOM and the 3 mojaves. I hope to see if this is a fluke or if this is something genetic. The Mom now has 14 mm follicles, and I'm hoping to get this Male up to breeding size to breed her. IF not, I'll use the same Mojave male that bred her last year. He is just a Normal Mojave I got from the Snake Keeper.

Hope you like the Picture and the Update. Have a great Breeding season in 05, and I hope to see a Lot of KILLER Ball Pythons. Take Care, Jeremy Stone

(I posted this in the new Morphs page too) This is kindof confusing. I don't know if you are only supposed to post in 1 area or not. If not, I'm sorry to post this here.

Very nice mojave. Can you post a picture of the mom?
>>Hello, I get lots of emails of people asking me to update them on the Stripe Mojaves. Here is a picture of one of the 3 produced at 450 grams. This one is a Male.
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>>In 04 I bred a Mojave male to a NORMAL female Ball that was Striped. She looked a little different, but not anything special, and just a very nice NORMAL. I got 7 eggs. 4 Normals, and 3 Striped Mojaves. The normals were normal, but the Mojaves were All Striped. 1 of the Normals did have striping but it wasn't as dramtic as the MOM and the 3 mojaves. I hope to see if this is a fluke or if this is something genetic. The Mom now has 14 mm follicles, and I'm hoping to get this Male up to breeding size to breed her. IF not, I'll use the same Mojave male that bred her last year. He is just a Normal Mojave I got from the Snake Keeper.
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>>Hope you like the Picture and the Update. Have a great Breeding season in 05, and I hope to see a Lot of KILLER Ball Pythons. Take Care, Jeremy Stone
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>>I posted this in the new Morphs page too) This is kindof confusing. I don't know if you are only supposed to post in 1 area or not. If not, I'm sorry to post this here.
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Thomas Jones
aligatorhunter@cox.net

I would like to show a picture of the Mom, and I will some day soon. However, I am afraid to do so. Here is why. I really think it is a STRIPED NORMAL. Nothing too special. Mabye she is one out of 1000 like her that is special. However, once you start showing pics like this on the forum, and people get the Idea that MAYBE some are genetic and pop out whacky things, you'll start to see EVERY BALL Python on the classifieds that Remotly looks similar to her for 1000 PLUS!!!! Kindof like the Yellow Bellies. A morph was produced from them, and you get many people posting pictures of NORMALS that have some spots on the belly and the asking price of 1000 PLUS in HOPES it may BE a yellowbelly. I don't want that to happen with normals that are Striped!!!!!!

IF the Stripe Mojave proves genetic, I will gladly post pics of the Mom. However, I will wait untill that time.

Jeremy

Definately a pretty snake.

I was gonna ask for a picture of the female that produced the striped mojave. I am curious to see if she looks like the striped female that Jared produced the striped yellow belly from. Hummm This is getting crazyier every year. Thanks DAVID

Nice striped mojave.
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1.0 Pied(04)(RDR)
1.0 Albino(04)(RDR)
0.1 Spider(04)(RDR)
3.2 Pastels(03's)(04's)(ASF,Graziani,Bell lines)
0.1 Yellow belly(unproven)(04)
1.3 Yellow belly(unproven)(02,03,04's)
2.0 100% HET CLOWN(04's)(MHMR)
3.3 100% het albinos(03's)(high contrast bell line)
0.1 poss Het Albino(03's)
2.0 100% het pieds(03's)(Vin Russo,CRE)
0.2 100% het pieds(03's)(04's)(RDR,TWL)
1.2 Poss het pieds(03's)(PETE KAHL)
2.1 Poss het pieds(00's)(01's) hoping to get PIEDS this year(Vin Russo, Pete Kahl)
25 Normal adult females
60 04 females
15 normal mixed 03's
20 Assorted weird ball pythons 04's

It might be that both Mojave and Yellow Belly enhance a fairly common dominant type stripe gene that by it's self isn't remarkable enough to be classified as anything but normal.

I respect the idea of looking out for people who might get taken by animals that don't prove but if there is a good way to identify these "normal" genetic stripes (i.e. odd belly or something like that) publishing the info could lead to a lot more of them being paired with the right males (leucistic and ivory hets). I bet even though a lot of non yellow bellies have been sold for a little too much there have also been a lot of real yellow bellies found that wouldn't have been without the posted pics.

Beautiful Mojave.

DragonDavy

This was a kool looking female I got in a trade. It was sold to me as a male and I never checked it and then I was getting it close to breeding size and when I poped it to check for sperm plugs...that is when I found out it was a female. Thanks David

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1.0 Pied(04)(RDR)
1.0 Albino(04)(RDR)
0.1 Spider(04)(RDR)
3.2 Pastels(03's)(04's)(ASF,Graziani,Bell lines)
0.1 Yellow belly(unproven)(04)
1.3 Yellow belly(unproven)(02,03,04's)
2.0 100% HET CLOWN(04's)(MHMR)
3.3 100% het albinos(03's)(high contrast bell line)
0.1 poss Het Albino(03's)
2.0 100% het pieds(03's)(Vin Russo,CRE)
0.2 100% het pieds(03's)(04's)(RDR,TWL)
1.2 Poss het pieds(03's)(PETE KAHL)
2.1 Poss het pieds(00's)(01's) hoping to get PIEDS this year(Vin Russo, Pete Kahl)
25 Normal adult females
60 04 females
15 normal mixed 03's
20 Assorted weird ball pythons 04's

Here she is. She is around 7-800 grams

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1.0 Pied(04)(RDR)
1.0 Albino(04)(RDR)
0.1 Spider(04)(RDR)
3.2 Pastels(03's)(04's)(ASF,Graziani,Bell lines)
0.1 Yellow belly(unproven)(04)
1.3 Yellow belly(unproven)(02,03,04's)
2.0 100% HET CLOWN(04's)(MHMR)
3.3 100% het albinos(03's)(high contrast bell line)
0.1 poss Het Albino(03's)
2.0 100% het pieds(03's)(Vin Russo,CRE)
0.2 100% het pieds(03's)(04's)(RDR,TWL)
1.2 Poss het pieds(03's)(PETE KAHL)
2.1 Poss het pieds(00's)(01's) hoping to get PIEDS this year(Vin Russo, Pete Kahl)
25 Normal adult females
60 04 females
15 normal mixed 03's
20 Assorted weird ball pythons 04's

David, that Ball Python you posted looks VERY similar to the Stripe Mojaves. VERY NICE!!!! That snake is a LOT more abberant looking then the MOM of the Mojaves. THat one you have there is DEFINATLEY something you would spot immediatley and say, that is VERY COOL. The MOM that produced the Mojave has a thicker stripe, and the sides are a little different. If she were in a group of 10 females, you wouldn't pick here FIRST because of looks if there were some brighter animals in the bunch. You would spot her and call her a VERY nice and cool Ball python, but not as dramatic as YOURS. I would be very happy if it proved out and the normals looked like yours.

I also respect your View Randy. I really just don't want to post it because of what I said before about all the Somewhat Striped Balls that are Normal may start a WHOLE phase where many can be taken advantage of. I WILL For sure post pics if I prove it out, and even if I breed her again, and there are NO Stripes, I'll post the Pic. Pics should be on the new Web Page when I get it finished up. I'm almost done, but Have to include more Boas to the Page.

Thanks for the kind words everyone, and I hope you like the pictures. I'll keep the forum further updated on the future of the project. Jeremy

He looks awesome Jeremy. Hope he breeds this season.
Justin J
AAR

That is one killer Mojave! Awesome dude!

Eric

I feel you do not want to post pics in order to keep competition low. I do not blame you. I would do the same just so I can produce more before everyone and their momma did. Great looking Mojave. i hope all goes well with your project.

>>Hello, I get lots of emails of people asking me to update them on the Stripe Mojaves. Here is a picture of one of the 3 produced at 450 grams. This one is a Male.
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>>In 04 I bred a Mojave male to a NORMAL female Ball that was Striped. She looked a little different, but not anything special, and just a very nice NORMAL. I got 7 eggs. 4 Normals, and 3 Striped Mojaves. The normals were normal, but the Mojaves were All Striped. 1 of the Normals did have striping but it wasn't as dramtic as the MOM and the 3 mojaves. I hope to see if this is a fluke or if this is something genetic. The Mom now has 14 mm follicles, and I'm hoping to get this Male up to breeding size to breed her. IF not, I'll use the same Mojave male that bred her last year. He is just a Normal Mojave I got from the Snake Keeper.
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>>Hope you like the Picture and the Update. Have a great Breeding season in 05, and I hope to see a Lot of KILLER Ball Pythons. Take Care, Jeremy Stone
>>
>>I posted this in the new Morphs page too) This is kindof confusing. I don't know if you are only supposed to post in 1 area or not. If not, I'm sorry to post this here.
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Thomas Jones
aligatorhunter@cox.net

I don't show the pictures because I want to "Keep the competition low" and I answered why I don't want to post them. There isn't any competetion because I really don't KNOW if is genetic. IF one of the 4 normals would have come out looking like the NORMAL that David posted above, then I would be more convinced. Only the MOJAVES were striped. Untill then, it hasn't even been Proven, and I don't want to speculate untill it does. I really couldn't pick the Mom out of a bunch of normals, unless I picked out Normals that have striping down the back, and had nice contrast. I have many other Balls that look very similar to her and they have produced babies, with NONE coming out striped. Soo, All I can do is keep my fingers crossed it does PROVE out, and if it doesn't, I will be happy with the ones I have.

I'm very happy with these Mojaves, because My plan was to breed them into the Genetic Stripes (My favorite Recessive morph) Now, I really don't need to do that because I think they will look similar. Time will tell. Take Care, Jeremy

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