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Rainer regarding Enge's Eastern Kings

Keith Hillson Jan 25, 2005 03:36 PM

Kevin's response to an email I sent him...

Rainer has got some things right and some things wrong. One year, I
bred a wild-caught, wide-banded male intergrade (Leon Co. on your
website) with a wild-caught, eastern-looking female from Wakulla Co.,
FL, and produced some wide-banded babies that I labeled as "bumblebees"
along with the wide-banded Georgia babies. These 2 counties are
adjacent to each other. The term "bumblebee" was just a marketing term
I used for about 4 years that referred to wide bands, and that was
before anyone cared about locality animals in regards to easterns.
Rainer was pestering me incessantly for bumblebees, and the intergrades
had the widest bands, so I think he bought a male to match up with a GA
female from the previous year. I readily told him their origin, and I
never tried to pass the intergrades off as GA animals (if anyone cared
to ask), and they didn't look like GA animals anyways.

From the photos I've seen of Will's adults, they look
like offspring from the Echols male and Tift female.

So there ya go Rainer from the man himself. Kevin Enge has an excellent reputation and I believe him without doubt.
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Replies (1)

bluerosy Jan 25, 2005 04:06 PM

What did you expect him to say? That he sold everyone crossed animals as locale specific? Read his post carefully and see where he states "pestering me incessantly".

Read between the lines.

p.s.
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