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i have 2.3 adult w/c in pueblo co. bulls,very varieable differances in all 5 here are 2 females i will post more pics of entire group as i get them, all have just came up from 8weeks of darkness and 50/55 degree temps so fingers crossed they should produce anywhooo thanks for lookin ,,,,,,,,thomas

no black on her anywhere very differant lookin camera doesnt p/u the pink hues at all,,thanks for lookin,,,,,,,,thomas

maybe hypo any thoughts? on hypo or exact ssp.?,,,,,,,thomas

especially the last third of her. cool looking. she looks like a sonoran gopher from here thomas, kinda hard to see her rostral scale which is usually more sharply pronounced on bulls and blunter on gophers. blotch count seems more 'gopherish' also. in any event, i think we may have to talk in the spring. lol! good luck w/ them!........dan

thanks dan she is clean and im also leaning towards a sanoran gopher, of the 2.3 i have she is the only one w/that look all are from the pueblo co. area and i will post more pics of the group soon thanks,,,,,,,,,,,thomas

that 1rst pic shown is definitely a bull thomas. i don't know where pueblo county is but it's possibly part of the intergrade zone of these 2 similar looking serpents as i do think that 'ultra girl' has that sonoran look.......

Great looking snakes Thomas. I didn't even know you kept Pits. Looks like you have some nice ones at that.

thanks phil, yeah i got this group last year(pitbug got me,,again) bullsnakes were actually the first snake species i ever successfully bred and kept,,, back in the day dont get me wrong i love my lampropeltis after all ,,,i am lampropeltis man!!! but i gotta say pituophis are much more personable than the kings are,,,got any ky.locale pit pics? i hope to get a n.pine group together this year they are great snakes
,,,,,,,,,thomas

Thomas, you may have seen this one before, but this is a western KY pine we found in 2003. Maybe this year we'll find her a boy friend.