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Maybe someone has info on this product
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It is used in kennels to clean and disinfect, any thoughts?
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Bennett

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Home of the Florida Orange

You should always be wary of chemical products that are not proven to be safe with amphibians and reptiles. I know nothing about this particular disinfectant, however. I do know that Nolvasan is an industry standard in zoos and aquariums. I personally have been using it for 4 yrs around amphibians with no known problems. A generic version can be purchased through www.beanfarm.com.
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I already use chlorahexadine 2% (nolvasan). Here is a beter price for you
http://www.valleyvet.com/ct_detail.html?PGGUID=30e07b58-7b6a-11d5-a192-00b0d0204ae5

I am looking for something in addition to that so I can rotate cleaners so the nasties dont build up immunities.
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Bennett

beardiedragon.com
Home of the Florida Orange

Since the most important part of disinfection is "cleaning", or wiping up the gross debris and letting the exposed surface dry, the need for rotating disinfectants is perhaps a bit of an over precaution. It won't hurt though, so feel free to take that step.

Chlorhexidine is a great disinfectant, however it is a little limited in it's abilities with certain very resistant pathogens. Also, depending on it's composition (it often comes as a gluconate) it needs to be "fresh" or it's function decreases.

For general cleaning (floors, kennels ect) quatuanary chemicals have been the mainstay in most progressive animal clinics for the last 5 years or so. It has shown effective against even the ellusive canine parvo virus. I do recommend rinsing thoroughly after using Quatsyl-D, or any disinfectant. It may not affect larger animals, but with small herps and definatly amphibians, no residue is what you want.

As for Nolvosan, I've heard of the name, but can't pin down what the active chemical is so thus have no opinion on it.

Thanks for that input. Nolvasan is Chlorahexadine acitate 2%. I have been paying $35 a gallon for it and am going to be switching to the glutonate for $15 a gallon. And yes that is something I just found out and not many people know... It needs to be used quickly especially if it is diluted with tap water as opposed to distilled water. I only mix up enough for a day at a time.

I am looking for something to clean cages quickly due to the number of reptiles I have. I need to get them out, clean the cage and get them back in. Here's a few shots of part of my facility.

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Bennett

beardiedragon.com
Home of the Florida Orange

The gluconate should suite your needs well. It looks like you'll be going through that day's supply with all those cages, so it's not like you'll be wasting anything. Nice setup! With beardies I wouldn't worry about any tiny amounts of residue as long as you wipe the cage clean/dry.