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sw0rdf15h Jan 28, 2005 11:07 AM

Well that frog I posted about is still looking unreasonably skinny, while his tank mate is nice and fat. I put in tons of wax worms all over the place and there are larger, slower crickets, but he still looks super skinny. Is there a way to solve this? How will I know if he's eating?

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bradtort Jan 28, 2005 12:49 PM

First, if I'm reading you correctly you have swarms of insects in the frog's enclosure. This could be stressing the frog out, especially the crickets which may chew on him at night. Wax worms are kind of sluggish and may not get the frog's attention.

When I want to be sure that my frog eats his food, I put him in a separate container (a small rubbermaid tub with a lid and no substrate) with one or two bugs. Then it's easy to count what's left :->

Leave him in the container with the bugs for up to an hour. Dont' bother him during this time.

Make sure the bugs are small enough for him. Maybe pull the hind legs off of the crickets. Also, my White's tree frog loves earthworms. Earthworms are very slow and less likely to cause digestive problems for a sickly frog, in my opinion. And you can get small red wigglers at the bait shop if you have a small frog. I use nightcrawlers for my medium sized White's.

bluetubeodyssey Jan 28, 2005 03:35 PM

I agree with bradtort, those are good suggestions.
Also, my WTFs tend not to notice the slow moving wax worms, so I actually put the wax worms on my frogs face, so that the tail is between the frogs eyes and it extends down over the lips, and when it moves the frog goes "huh? food!" and eats it off his face. Just something to try.
But yeah, don't leave all the bugs in there, crickets do tend to chew on animals and the wax worms will just turn black and die.
My little guy saw 2 large crickets and immediately jumped over to them and ate them and is fatter now. There seems to be a problem with your guy's appetite, which could be due to illness or environment. If changing your setup doesn't work, you could take him into the vet.
Good luck!
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Mercedesherp Jan 28, 2005 05:56 PM

Put your frog in it's own container. The other frog and new surrounings may be too stressfull for it. Do not try to feed it agian for a couple of days but make sure temps and humidity are optimum. Then try smaller food items. The food offered should be no larger than the space between the frogs eyes until it is stronger. Start with one or two food items at a time and put them in just before dark. Check the next morning and remove if not eaten. White's are vorocious feeders. There may be a health issue here.

sw0rdf15h Jan 28, 2005 07:23 PM

Thanks for all the suggestions, but let me include some info which may or may not change things. These white's are babies. Probably an inch long. I can't find food as big as the space between their eyes because that's probably a quarter inch or so. I'll try the container thing, but they are extremely wary of me so i'm scared it'll stress him out more than help him eat. Any further suggestions are appreciated.

Mercedesherp Jan 29, 2005 09:54 AM

Most retail pet stores carry the 1/4" crix. Just try to keep prey size as small as possible for a while.

devious_froggy Feb 09, 2005 05:14 PM

I agree, Definatley seporate him! you can try getting earth worms and cutting them (ewww...) up into smaller pieces, it seems to work well to get them eating again.

Dont worry too much about getting him to eat ASAP, he will eat when he feels
1)less stressed, very secure (his tankmate might be stressing him out, or the tank mate is getting all the "easy" food first)
2)healthy and is parasite free (so maybe get him to the vet for a little check up)

Keep us posted, and try to post some pics if you can, it always helps us diagnose how bad/far along your frogs problem is, so we can reccomend a more/less drastic approach!
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