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And here is a shot of my female hold back Northern Pine. She doesn't show the amount of red my male does. More a plain black and white snake. Enjoy the pic! I'll make future pics a bit smaller I think, pics seem a bit huge to me...whoops...
Russell Keys
Keys Reptiles

That's one of the best looking Pine's I've every seen!!! It is so clean and defined in its patern and color. Those with the red influence are beautiful also but nothing to degree of this snake you posted .... MC
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Matt from Minnesota
Cornsnake, Eastern Kingsnake, IL Bullsnake - all girls.
0.1 Crested Gecko

Beautiful female Russell. One of the physical traits that make a New Jersey Pine Barren Northern Pines is their pattern. The pattern on the female is what I think when someone mentions New Jersey Northern Pine. The red overtones in her ground color should come in nicely. I'll look forward to seeing some updated pics.

Terry Parks

Terry,
thanks! but it's funny to me how many people ask me every year, for BLACK and WHITE Northern Pines, oh, and they've GOT to be New Jersey Pines...do these people REALLY know what the pines from that area look like? Myself, I've never been out there, and I've only seen a couple pictures, so I don't totally have a clue, except the breeders I've seen at John Meltzer's place. And the fact is, New Jersey stock can indeed show variable amounts of red, just as the same stock, some animals are showing less of that red, but both animals are still high contrast! When John came to visit this last summer, and helped me sex these baby pines, it was this female that stopped him up short, and told me she was the one that in his mind was going to be the nicest black and white pine. So, knowing he's been at this for twenty plus years, I kept her back and let some other brighter looking stock go. The brighter looking animals had a slight off white color to their background. This girl, not bright at the beginning, didn't have that slight yellow white to her background, as my male does. Still both are beautiful animals! But she doesn't have the pretty red spots the male does which I think is beautiful in a black and white pine. Anyhow, there'll be more pics in the future as I practice with my digital camera. But doggone, snakes don't hold still very long! LOL!
Russell

Russell -
I've seen where people are leaning towards the high white/black contrast Northern Pine. It is a pretty contrast. I've seen though, where some of the classic pattern is being washed out. So I think Northerns are being selectively bred and/or crossed with other selectively bred Northerns to develop a real high white/black Northern Pine. In doing so, we are loosing some of the original New Jersey Pine Barren founding stock bloodlines and have gone to a generic Northern Pine. Just speaking for myself, Russell, I have always loved the off white with red ovetones with great looking black/brown saddles New Jersey Pine Barren Northern Pine. So when I see one like the female you posted, I just put on the drool bib.

Terry Parks

everytime you go and post all these guys it makes me want to buy some more from you. I will pick up another pair someday, once things settle down again here. I am also excited to pick up a pair or two from the pair i sold to Anthony last year from your stock.

Have a good one, and thanks for posting all the great pics!

Gregg F.

>>And here is a shot of my female hold back Northern Pine. She doesn't show the amount of red my male does. More a plain black and white snake. Enjoy the pic! I'll make future pics a bit smaller I think, pics seem a bit huge to me...whoops...
>>Russell Keys
>>Keys Reptiles
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Gregg F.

www.greggsrb.com

Very ugly snake, you should get her out of your collection and send her to me. I will add her to all the other ugly snakes we have. Email me if you need the address.

John Cherry
Cherryville Farms

Cherryville Farms - Reptiles

LOL! well, how about buying some of her ugly brothers and sisters this year? Hey, in fact, we coud do a swap, some of my ugly black and white Northern Pines for some of your ugly red and white albino Southern Pines...what a great idea! *hint hint* LOL!
thanks for the compliments guys! I'm actually trying hard to learn to use my digital camera better, as I'm jealous of the people who get such gorgeous, CLEAR and IN FOCUS close up shots of their animals with digital cameras. I've got a bit to learn yet, but I'm coming along ok!

and you throw a pic up like that John. Thanks for sharing the pic.

Terry Parks

Gregg,
I still can't believe you sold that female?!?! I too will be talking to A.C. about babies out of that female..LOL! Especially if he breeds her to one of his own males, then the babies would be a bit outcrossed, and that would be good for my animals I think. Well take care, and yes, there should always be more gorgeous babies as I'll never sell my breeders! It's hard enough selling the babies every year! And this year I really can't keep any! No room for more adult pines! So I guess that means if any screamers are born, hmmm...how much does it cost to add a room to the side of a house? LOL! I just can't keep em all...*sigh*
Russell

Nice contrast . I like the how there is a lot of white background color on the snake .

Take care
Jason