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Ok Patricia.
I'm not sure but I don't think Dwight has any yearlings. Here is a recent shot of one of mine. He has a few spots by the tail but 90% of his sides are completely clean. I'm anxious to see this guy as an adult.

>>I'm not sure but I don't think Dwight has any yearlings.

Hehe, I think that was an inside joke that Tricia made. I am holding a yearling normal het female glades for her.

BTW, very nice whitesided glades Mark. That boy has come a long way! Guess he really was a good deal after all, eh? The female you got from me is probably not nearly as nice is she?
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Dwight Good
http://www.kingsnake.com/obsoleta

Heck Bud, She may not be quite as nice but she is doing very well. She just doesn't have quite as vibrant color. She sure is a sweetheart, though. Sometimes the Reptile Show clearance rack gives you a good deal.

That snake is definitely a looker. Nice pick!
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Dwight Good
http://www.kingsnake.com/obsoleta

Since you've mentioned Dwight, are you both working with the same morph gene and/or genes? I just recently began looking at pics of what Dwight has shown and now you have posted. I was wondering how they are going to look as adults. It looks like there will be a white sided stripped phenotype snake. This is unique in as much as as everlglades goes from a dorsal blotched or patterned snake to a dorsal and side stripped snaked. There is mention on an earlier post that the color of the glades fades or changes to a yellower shade. I would think this would support and be consistent with the original phenotype description of an evergaldes. People think so much now of this bright orange everglades snake when in actuality, the original phenotype description of the everglades snake is a yellow/orange snake. Again, very nice looking snake Mark. When are we going to start seeing those coming out? Good luck

>>Ok Patricia.
>>I'm not sure but I don't think Dwight has any yearlings. Here is a recent shot of one of mine. He has a few spots by the tail but 90% of his sides are completely clean. I'm anxious to see this guy as an adult.
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This guy is from a different gene pool, at least for a few generations. Someone I'd never seen before had a few animals at the Birmingham Show and he was just trying to move them. This guy was too nice and too cheap to pass up. I'll breed him with two from Dwight next season. (I have a female from him and a pair of hets.)
It doesn't show really well in the pic, but this little guy carries more orange than the others and he seems to be getting a little more vibrant with each shed. Right now, the head is very orange but the body is similar to the picture Dwight posted. Heck, i'm the eternal optimist and this little fellow hs my interest.

Very Nice, might I ask whose line this individual came from? Possibly adding on a few of these along with some hypos this season.

>>Very Nice, might I ask whose line this individual came from?

AFAIK, all bloodlines of the whitesided everglades rat originate from Gulf Coast Reptiles. Of course various other breeders have since continued the line but Chris and Sheila were the pioneers. Give them a call, they usually produce quite a few of these each year.

Maybe Mark can answer your question as to the specific individual's name that produced that particular animal.
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Dwight Good
http://www.kingsnake.com/obsoleta

Thank You Dwight for your input. I was actually going to pick up my next batch from Sheila this season. Had a few of these some 10 years back, maybe 8-9 from Gulf coast as well but traded them off for some boids before they reached maturity. Went thru a jungle carpet and blood python phase.

I would though like to hear where this specific herp came from as many of the adult ghost glades I have come across have a very washed out appearance. Probably why they are also called "ghost glades" but then again I have seen two incredible white sideds, at a show last season, that were exhibiting a stunning orange striping. I have some plans on outcrossing the ghosts I acquire with other stock and see what comes of it.

Thanks, Rich Hebron

...but I actually don't know the answer to that. The guy was surprisingly nontalkative and, in the end, never told me where his snakes originated. When I asked his name, he even seemed reluctant to offer it. Maybe he's had ID theft problems. Either way, i was getting a good deal and stopped asking questions. He did say that he got the parents about 7 years ago and was tired of breeding them. He was going to move into Boids. Sound familiar?
Dwight is probably right that the parents originated with GCS. I don't know of anyone else who developed a separate line.

Thanks, Mark. He's lovely. Be sure to post us some updates as he matures.

As Dwight observed, that was a bit of an inside joke. I'm really looking forward to receiving my little yearling het girl, and hoping that she'll produce some nice whitesides for me in 2005. The little het boy that I got from Dwight last year, is doing very well.

>>Ok Patricia.
>>I'm not sure but I don't think Dwight has any yearlings. Here is a recent shot of one of mine. He has a few spots by the tail but 90% of his sides are completely clean. I'm anxious to see this guy as an adult.
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tricia

I got a pair of hets from Dwight last year as well. They've been terrific and one is "oranging up" beautifully. The other one fell behind a little when he spent 187 days on the AWOL list. Naturally, that put him behind his pal by several sheds. He did fine after recapture, though. I'd given him up for dead or lost. They sure are hardy critters.