Reptile & Amphibian Forums

I just read your repsonse to Kim re: your little girl! How very sad - and frustrating since you don't know what caused it

You were so excited, built her a cage and all. Well, for the short time she was in your heart you now have those memories.

lele

hi lele, thanks a bunch. but you know what is strange, even though i had it for 20 days, the shop is willing to replace the chameleon for another one? they even said they would replace it for a Jacksonii Merumontana what costs £100 more then the one i had, whats going on with that place, lol?
thanks again.

>>I just read your repsonse to Kim re: your little girl! How very sad - and frustrating since you don't know what caused it
>>
>>You were so excited, built her a cage and all. Well, for the short time she was in your heart you now have those memories.
>>
>>lele

-----
Jamie whitehouse

Sorry to hear about your little one too, Jamie. I have only had luck with one out of three babies that I have bought, even though I have done an infinite ammount of homework and research on them and have 2years experience with my female veiled. I'll always remember when one breeder told me 'Sometimes they just die because it's Teusday.' As in they die for absolutely no reason whatsoever. And that species (hoehnelli was it?) is a bit more delicate than others.

Jacksonii merumontanous is a very very nice species. They do require very high humidity and moderate tempuratures, not high ones. If you expose them to higher tempuratures, or even if you have a heat wave in the summer, it will most likely die or get really sick. Someone I know lost his whole breeding colony (2.6) because of a heat wave one summer, and he also lost all his babies that had hatched a few months prior. Being a dwarf species, they are also quite delicate and I wouldn't recommend you handle them very much or at all for that matter, depending on the individual itself. The males are the prettiest of all the jacksonii subspecies with their aqua blue colours and yellow stripe, and the females are the coolest of the jacksonii's because they can grow a rostral horn. Make sure you are able to keep tempuratures moderate and humidity high before diving into the merumontanous. And a word of caution, if it is wild caught DO NOT accept the offer, it will die I can almost garuntee it, if it isn't captive bred, get a different one.

-Brock

I wouldnt buy a WC anyway. I Feel forry about the person with the breeding colony, how horrible would that be. But we dont get heat waves over here in UK like you guys to in the US.

>>Sorry to hear about your little one too, Jamie. I have only had luck with one out of three babies that I have bought, even though I have done an infinite ammount of homework and research on them and have 2years experience with my female veiled. I'll always remember when one breeder told me 'Sometimes they just die because it's Teusday.' As in they die for absolutely no reason whatsoever. And that species (hoehnelli was it?) is a bit more delicate than others.
>>
>>Jacksonii merumontanous is a very very nice species. They do require very high humidity and moderate tempuratures, not high ones. If you expose them to higher tempuratures, or even if you have a heat wave in the summer, it will most likely die or get really sick. Someone I know lost his whole breeding colony (2.6) because of a heat wave one summer, and he also lost all his babies that had hatched a few months prior. Being a dwarf species, they are also quite delicate and I wouldn't recommend you handle them very much or at all for that matter, depending on the individual itself. The males are the prettiest of all the jacksonii subspecies with their aqua blue colours and yellow stripe, and the females are the coolest of the jacksonii's because they can grow a rostral horn. Make sure you are able to keep tempuratures moderate and humidity high before diving into the merumontanous. And a word of caution, if it is wild caught DO NOT accept the offer, it will die I can almost garuntee it, if it isn't captive bred, get a different one.
>>
>>-Brock
-----
Jamie whitehouse

Did you get it from a breeder or just a pet shop? Funny how we are always suspicious these days when a company does the RIGHT thing! LOL!

>>hi lele, thanks a bunch. but you know what is strange, even though i had it for 20 days, the shop is willing to replace the chameleon for another one? they even said they would replace it for a Jacksonii Merumontana what costs £100 more then the one i had, whats going on with that place, lol?
>>thanks again.
>>
>>
>>
>>>>I just read your repsonse to Kim re: your little girl! How very sad - and frustrating since you don't know what caused it
>>>>
>>>>You were so excited, built her a cage and all. Well, for the short time she was in your heart you now have those memories.
>>>>
>>>>lele
>>
>>-----
>>Jamie whitehouse

A Breeder, i dont trust pet shops anymore. He is very trust worthy as well, nice bloke.

>>Did you get it from a breeder or just a pet shop? Funny how we are always suspicious these days when a company does the RIGHT thing! LOL!
>>
>>
>>>>hi lele, thanks a bunch. but you know what is strange, even though i had it for 20 days, the shop is willing to replace the chameleon for another one? they even said they would replace it for a Jacksonii Merumontana what costs £100 more then the one i had, whats going on with that place, lol?
>>>>thanks again.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>I just read your repsonse to Kim re: your little girl! How very sad - and frustrating since you don't know what caused it
>>>>>>
>>>>>>You were so excited, built her a cage and all. Well, for the short time she was in your heart you now have those memories.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>lele
>>>>
>>>>-----
>>>>Jamie whitehouse
-----
Jamie whitehouse

Jamie,

Get the Merumontanus!! They're absolutely great! Good personality, Great looks! Plus i'd be happy to share any info on keeping them ( though i don't know much about them myslef, shamefully ). But its a good deal. None of my business, i know...but get it!!

Jamie,
I can’t for the life of me find the thread where you talked about the loss of your Ch. (T.) hoehnelii but I urge you to err on the side of caution and stay away from the Ch. (T.) j. merumontanum at this time. This is a wonderful species and I know the opportunity to work with them is very appealing but I don’t feel this would be a wise step for you at this time. We talked about my reservations regarding your decision to obtain the Ch. (T.) hoehnelii as well and I believe for these same reasons that you should first gain more experience prior to attempting an even more challenging and demanding species. Sometimes what appears to be no reason has a clear reason, you just have to know where to look for it. Young animals can be even more difficult to understand furthering my opinion that more hands on experience is needed before you jump into species which can be problematic. It wasn’t too long ago now that you got your first chameleon and while you have been working hard to advance your knowledge, that does not change actual experience which is often the only way to detect and understand problems with these animals before its too late or even detect them at all. I’m very sorry about your loss. I hope you use this circumstance however to gain further experience with which you can succeed in rather than possibly set yourself up for a potentially difficult road. Hope to be able to talk to you online soon. Take care,
Chris

-----
Chris Anderson
parsonii_hoehnelii@hotmail.com
Chameleon Care and Information Center (CCIC) - http://www.geocities.com/ccicenter/
Chameleons Online E-zine - http://www.chameleonnews.com/

Thanks chris.

>>Jamie,
>>I can’t for the life of me find the thread where you talked about the loss of your Ch. (T.) hoehnelii but I urge you to err on the side of caution and stay away from the Ch. (T.) j. merumontanum at this time. This is a wonderful species and I know the opportunity to work with them is very appealing but I don’t feel this would be a wise step for you at this time. We talked about my reservations regarding your decision to obtain the Ch. (T.) hoehnelii as well and I believe for these same reasons that you should first gain more experience prior to attempting an even more challenging and demanding species. Sometimes what appears to be no reason has a clear reason, you just have to know where to look for it. Young animals can be even more difficult to understand furthering my opinion that more hands on experience is needed before you jump into species which can be problematic. It wasn’t too long ago now that you got your first chameleon and while you have been working hard to advance your knowledge, that does not change actual experience which is often the only way to detect and understand problems with these animals before its too late or even detect them at all. I’m very sorry about your loss. I hope you use this circumstance however to gain further experience with which you can succeed in rather than possibly set yourself up for a potentially difficult road. Hope to be able to talk to you online soon. Take care,
>>Chris
>>
>>-----
>>Chris Anderson
>>parsonii_hoehnelii@hotmail.com
>>Chameleon Care and Information Center (CCIC) - http://www.geocities.com/ccicenter/
>>Chameleons Online E-zine - http://www.chameleonnews.com/
-----
Jamie whitehouse