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The blackbellied female from Will.

BobBull Feb 05, 2005 09:30 PM

Pardon any random thoughts or hideous typos I'm all woosie from top-notch pharaceuticals. I'm sick with the flu so I feel like crap and I'm bored out of my skull. The joys of having 5 girls in the house dragging disease home from school
All the Georgian snakes are within a day of shedding so the colors are very dull. This shot of GA-01f shows the one, and only, pinstripe. It's no big deal and most likely just an anomoly, but Will's ideas can only be examined if we keep good track of future breeding and comparing notes. This female also has a blackbelly with an almost complete low-lateral stripe. My thoughts are that the blackbelly pattern is probably a single-gene recessive. Which I hope to prove out in '06 by breeding the male GA-02m with a female albino that has a clear belly. If that doesn't go, then I'll try '07 with this female and GA-02m. Hopefully, someone can set up a breeding this year.

Have any of you noticed that some of this years red/orange are retaining their color better than others or do you think they all fade with growth Like Frank and the rest.

Bob Bull

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BobBull Feb 05, 2005 09:32 PM

Another shot of GA-01f showing the belly pattern. and the low-lateral stripe. Quite cool IMO.

BobBull Feb 05, 2005 09:36 PM

This is GA-02m he has the black-belly trait though it is nowhere as nice as GA-01f. He also has some very wide bands with bullseyes. Nice snake he handles well but is growing a little slower than the female.

BobBull Feb 05, 2005 09:37 PM

This is a close-up of the bullseye pattern.

BobBull Feb 05, 2005 09:39 PM

Bob Bull

ChristopherD Feb 06, 2005 07:36 AM

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BlueKing Feb 06, 2005 10:17 AM

That's what they should call them! Reticulated kingsnakes, LOL!
Very Nice animal! Now you've got me wanting some of those, LOL!
Thanks for the 'eye-candy'! How big is he?
Zee

JETZEN Feb 05, 2005 11:26 PM

Very interesting, what part of Georgia can they be found?

BlueKing Feb 06, 2005 12:53 AM

connects to Will's house!!! But seriously, it all started many years ago with animals from Echols & Tift county in Extreme South Georgia that were originally collected by Kevin Enge. A large 6 foot male (from Echols County) started it all! Here's one of his sons that I got from Kevin in 03': He's still showing some pink/peach colors in his white crossbands. . .and growing like a weed (currently 42" )

Zee

BlueKing Feb 06, 2005 12:57 AM

Forgot to add: And as you can tell, Will's done an excellent job working with this line for several years and coming up with some nice yellow and orange banded individuals like this one:

JETZEN Feb 06, 2005 09:52 AM

TORTURING me with that RED-HOT BEAUTY!,LOL!!!

BlueKing Feb 06, 2005 10:20 AM

THANKS, Jetzen! Can't wait to get her brother! Will is going to send me her brother as soon the weather in Buffalo allows him to(his bands are even wider than hers)!

Zee

JETZEN Feb 06, 2005 11:23 AM

I can't wait to see the pic, don't you just love the variation of L.g.getula?

BlueKing Feb 06, 2005 05:27 PM

N/m

Keith Hillson Feb 06, 2005 12:09 PM

Wow she looks damn near identical to my male from mthe previous year. Your female would be a niece to min e as her father is Tank and Tanks is my males brother. My male also has the yellow lateral line along the ventrals and a solid black belly.


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willstill Feb 07, 2005 10:38 PM

Nice Pics Bob,

That patternless belly thing with the bordering stripes has recently proven to be a genetic marker in ball pythons for more extreme variations, such as the piebald and the ivory (nearly leucistic) traits. However, if that proves to be true, you and Keith are gonna have the jump on me 'cause you fellas seemed to grab all of the ones that I've hatched......nuts! (LOL). Oh well, I'll try to make a few more next year, and keep 'em!

Oh yeah, the orange retention in the adults seems to depend on the intensity in which it is developed in the first year. If it holds it, or if it intensifies in the first 12 months then there is a good chance it will retain at least a peach color into adulthood. I don't think it fades so much as it doesn't continue to be developed beyond the juvi stage. So, as the animal grows and matures, the orange color seems to spread out and lose some of its intensity in some cases, as it is overshadowed by yellow or creme. However, I haven't raised any F3s up yet, so I don't know if more will be retained in this generation than the others, which is exactly what has happened up to this point. The F2s are much brighter and more vibrant in adulthood than my F1 pair, which were quite orange as juvis. Nice pictures by the way. Take care.

Will

PS here is a pretty accurate shot of an F2 at 3 years of age. Oh yeah, she hatched with that slight speckling, she didn't develop it with age.

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