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can you help me ID with pictures

shaymus Feb 06, 2005 03:11 PM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v723/shaymus/0a6f1faa.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v723/shaymus/eef6d85c.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v723/shaymus/8c090c6c.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v723/shaymus/ccf7c33c.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v723/shaymus/b9700383.jpg

so there are some pictures of him. i hope they are good enough to make an ID off of. if you have any more tips or advice please share. thank you very much

Replies (5)

michael56 Feb 06, 2005 04:03 PM

Though I can only aquire a couple of your pics, it appears that you have a nerodia fasciata pictiventris, aka a florida banded water snake.
Michael

PiersonH Feb 06, 2005 09:56 PM

Like Micheal said, that's a Banded Watersnake (Nerodia fasciata) though I couldn't be certain of the subspecies with an individual that dark. Do you know where it came from?
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Pierson Hill

Herpetology and Herpetoculture

shaymus Feb 06, 2005 10:21 PM

nope, i live in the southwest and found it at a pet store. the owner said it was the only one he had ever gotten in.

undfun Feb 07, 2005 12:29 AM

I'm curious if anyone knows the subspecies difference here. The photo I attached is of what seems to be a very different morph or subspecies. Your pics are of a type I've seen other pics of - they seem to grow very dark with age and have those attractive orangish, uniform bands. The ones I have are more completely banded - the bands continue across the back of the snake, and are less contrasty than yours. Are they different species or just variations within the population?

undfun Feb 07, 2005 10:07 PM

This is a perfect illustration of what I'm talking about. Look at the 3rd pic down on this web site. This is a very diffrent looking morph or subspecies from the top 2 pics. Where does this pretty balck and orange morph fit in?

http://www.flmnh.ufl.edu/natsci/herpetology/fl-guide/Nerodiafpictiventris.htm
fasciata variations

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