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Frozen rats, thawed...??

bamboo42 Jul 06, 2003 07:14 PM

Hi everyone! Last time I posted may have been under my name Ralphine, but either way it's been ages. I lurk (and learn) a lot, and appreciate the forum for what it's taught me over the years. So thanks for all your help! Now I have a question about frozen and thawed rats. I'll apologize in advance for the length of this.

My favorite corner pet shop just went out of business. When my 9 year old corn snake was hungry, I used to just go, pick out a rat, then one of the "guys" would take it in the back, ding it for me (no extra charge!) and I'd go home to Spot with a freshly killed, still warm rat for his gastronomic pleasure. Or two rats, depending on how hungry he seemed. Sometimes I wound up freezing one of the rats for later, but not too often. I've been lucky, Spot didn't have any trouble switching to rats from mice, AND he doesn't seem to mind frozen/thawed.

The last couple of weeks the only place in town for me to buy rats is the previously frozen ones at Petco. I don't know how they are raised, how they're killed or how long since they've been frozen. So I'm a little concerned about the quality. Is there anything I can do to make these rats more nutritious?

Plus, when I thaw the rats out from Petco in warm water (I put them in the freezer in small vacuum-packed food saver bags), once the rat is thawed all the blood is on the bottom side. On cop shows with dead bodies they call that lividity. I never had that problem with the prekilled and then frozen rats from the corner pet store. It doesn't look good, and worries me that I'm giving it to my corn.

So, what do you think? Am I just being too picky? Is the lividity natural, and won't harm Spot? And what about making the frozen rats, quality unknown, more nutritious?

Thanks for your time and help! I really appreciate it!

Replies (4)

draybar Jul 06, 2003 07:28 PM

Hi,
I was feeding my snakes mice from PetCo for quite a while.
I can't remember where they get them but it is a reputable supplier.
I have had several burst when thawing but it is just a mess, it isn't harmfull.
One of the few things I do trust at PetCo is the mice.
Now, if you will notice I said I WAS getting my mice form there.
I just placed (and received) an order from RodentPro.
They were a heck of a lot cheaper and they are running a special on rats.
rodentpro.com
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Jimmy (draybar)

meretseger Jul 06, 2003 07:40 PM

At least around here the Petcos get their rodents from a place called Gourmet Rodent. I've never had that problem, though, but if it was me I guess I'd thaw it out and see how stinky it was. If you wouldn't eat it yourself, it's probably best not to ive it to your snake. (um.. you know... if you ate whole rodents)

bamboo42 Jul 08, 2003 03:02 PM

If anyone gets back to this thread...

Is it possible I'm thawing the rat at too high a temp? It just came to me, that we have our new hot water heater up as high as it will go, due to my husband's chronic hepatitis C status. Maybe I'm "cooking" the rat, by thawing it in such very hot water? I don't know what the temp might be, maybe 140* or so.

In the meantime I'll check out rodentpro, though we buy small rats and only the large ones are on sale, but the price is still better. And I might ask Gourmet Rodents (I had forgotten their name) how long it is between the time the rats are stunned/killed and when they are actually frozen. The lividity still bothers me, though the rat wasn't "stinky" that I noticed.

Thanks!

draybar Jul 09, 2003 07:04 PM

>>If anyone gets back to this thread...
>>
>>Is it possible I'm thawing the rat at too high a temp? It just came to me, that we have our new hot water heater up as high as it will go, due to my husband's chronic hepatitis C status. Maybe I'm "cooking" the rat, by thawing it in such very hot water? I don't know what the temp might be, maybe 140* or so.
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>>In the meantime I'll check out rodentpro, though we buy small rats and only the large ones are on sale, but the price is still better. And I might ask Gourmet Rodents (I had forgotten their name) how long it is between the time the rats are stunned/killed and when they are actually frozen. The lividity still bothers me, though the rat wasn't "stinky" that I noticed.
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>>Thanks!

When I thaw mice for my snakes I just set them under a light bulb for an hour or so. I hang one of my basking lights, with a 75 watt bulb, about 10 inches above the mice. I cover them with a paper towel and let them thaw. Works for me.
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Jimmy (draybar)

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