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My Jackson's have stopped using their tongues!

thamnophis Feb 08, 2005 02:17 PM

I would appreciate any insights to my recent difficulties. I have two Jackson's that are about 8 months old. I inherited the clutch and managed to save half of them from starvation. I only mention that because I think it may relate to my current problem. I gave most of them away, and have kept two, both of which are having difficulty using their tongues.

When I returned from a two week vacation, I realized that the lizards were not using their tongues as they always had. Now, they run around on the stubstate and the screen cage chasing after crickets. They hardly use their tongues for catching prey. The female can manuever well enough to catch dusted crickets, but the male's horns get in his way. I have been feeding them by hand, and trying to persuade them to use their tongue by holding the crickets at incremental lengths from their snout, but it hasn't been working.

These lizards are most likely the result of a brother-sister mating, so I'm sure they are fairly well in-bred. They ate fruit flies effecitvely after they were born, and the transition to crickets was very easy. I have never had diffulty feeding them until recently. They are still very interested in food, but rely on mouth capture instead of tongue capture. I don't think it's a hydration issue as they get misted regularly.

I dust the crickets with Miner-All Ca supplement, and they get natural sunlight through an open window. But is there something else I should try?

I'd appreciate any thoughts........thanks in advance!

Replies (2)

Tor038505 Feb 08, 2005 03:53 PM

People have told me to use miner-all AND herptivite to get all the necessary minerals and vitamins, but i dunno. If your chams start to get real lazy and not move around or anything like that get them to a vet immediately. My baby cham was doing that and he died from vitamin deficientcy.
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lele Feb 08, 2005 05:43 PM

what sort of care were they getting when you were away? If it developed during those two weeks you may want to to assess that care and ask your sitter about any changes they may have noticed.

How often are you dusting? It seems that tongue problems are often related to nutrition (over/under supplementation, poor gutloading). What are you feeding your crickets?

I linked below to an article on tongue problems. Also it would be helpful to post your setup. I do not know particulars about jackson's but any one who does will need this info anyway:

1-Cage type: size and type of cage (screen/glass)
2-Temps: - basking area and lower in cage
3-Lighting: - what output AND manufacturer of UVB lighting and wattage of basking light where are the lights? on top? distance from basking branch, length of time on/off, etc.
4-Humidity: do you have a gauge? What are the readings? Do you use a humidifier? Do you live in the north or south (or other)?
5-Water: how often do you mist? dripper? have you seen him/her drink?
6-Plants/branches: what plants do you have? lots of coverage where he will feel safe?
7-Food : what is s/he eating? Where are you getting them? What are you feeding the feeders? Fresh veggies? Gutload? What type?
8-supplements what and how often do you dust

lele
tongue problems

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