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alligator snapper on CITES Appendix 1 already? any articles... web sites...?

michaeldy Feb 08, 2005 11:37 PM

just heard from a fellow collector here in bangkok that alligator snappers are already list in appendix 1 already? any sites, articles or write ups anybody can recommend for me to use as basis or proof. thanks in advance.

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Katrina Feb 14, 2005 06:39 AM

I would doubt this. I thought they were CITES III last I'd heard. They might be endangered in certain states to which they are native, but I doubt they have risen to CITES I.

Katrina

mchambers Feb 14, 2005 05:47 PM

true as of the end of year ( and haven't heard anything different ) that alligator snappers are only on a state list from my state of Kansas. I also know that in both Missouri and Kansas you can still own them with proper documentation or that receipt of purchase. In Missouri it took the breeder class II license in which the big Mo. still has a halfway healthy stock state wise of the AS. This does not seem to be the case in Kansas though. I was talking to a wildlife person on why the condition of the AS is so low in numbers in Kansas and it's ( of course ) due to habitat changes, a drought that was mild to severe for several years out here, the practice of just plain wanton killing of snappers whether alligator or common, and the increase of traffic in numbers of vehicles on roads. In Missouri the scenario is the same but without the drought condition and just a tad little more on maybe collecting through the years.

Wildtropics Feb 23, 2005 11:53 PM

These reptiles never leave the water except for females when laying eggs. By the way, Louisiana just passed regulations that limit the recreational take of A snappers to one per day. However, you may not take or possess them if you have any kind of commercial license. Also, they may not be bought or sold in this state.
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mchambers Feb 28, 2005 01:39 PM

actually about 65% or more I have found on roads alive and DOR. I know for a fact that weather and movement of land has caused this. Normally a dry year would cause the snappers to move with their domains drying out but I have also seen the reverse where it was just to wet or flooded. I had 3 common snappers on my property just last year that was crossing my land and out on the road in front of my farm. I have one of those evaporation lagoon systems that I hope a snapper never gets into !

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