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visible morphs from breeding two 50% hets

ndolson Feb 09, 2005 03:10 PM

Is it theoretically possible to get a visible morph from breeding two 50% hets?

Replies (12)

toshamc Feb 09, 2005 03:24 PM

Sure - 50% just means that there is a 50/50 chance that, that snake carries the het gene. If both 50%ers were to mate and produce a viasible morph, then you would know that they are both 100% hets.
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Tosha

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ndolson Feb 09, 2005 03:44 PM

ok, thats what i thought...thanks!

playball Feb 09, 2005 04:06 PM

A guy hatched 2 caramels out of 4 eggs from pair of 50% possible Het he had purchased from Ralph Davis a few years ago...

Now thats beating the odds

coldthumb Feb 09, 2005 07:21 PM

Wouldnt that be nice...TWo Caramels! ..woohoo

That is the kinda luck i am going to need though.Since all i am starting with are two 50%possible males and normal females.
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Charles Glaspie

RandyRemington Feb 09, 2005 07:37 PM

I bred a 66% chance het albino male to a 50% chance het female and produced two albinos proving both where actually hets. Actually that was out of only two good eggs too but both babies where very kinked and didn't make it. What are the odds?

coldthumb Feb 09, 2005 07:46 PM

ouch..now thats alot of luck period,good and bad at the same time.Well at least you know they are both het.
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Charles Glaspie

RandyRemington Feb 09, 2005 07:49 PM

I sold the female to raise money for a bigger gamble but perhaps I'll prove one of her 50% chance het sisters this year.

coldthumb Feb 09, 2005 07:51 PM

Let it all ride ehh...lol
Good luck to you.
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Charles Glaspie

ndolson Feb 10, 2005 07:14 AM

what do you mean by "very kinked"?

RandyRemington Feb 10, 2005 08:16 AM

Here is a link to a page with a picture. Be warned, this is a very graphic pic of two very deformed baby ball pythons that didn't live long enough to make it out of the egg on their own. Don't look if you don't want to see something like this.
VERY GRAPHIC

ndolson Feb 10, 2005 09:33 AM

I really wish I hadnt looked at that, but I guess I know what "kinked" is now. I hope I never run across that during my breeding.

RandyRemington Feb 10, 2005 07:36 PM

That's the first time I've linked that page from Kingsnake since it happened nearly two years ago. Hard to look at but you where warned and maybe it will help us figure out how to prevent it in the future.

I've got a corn snake from 1998 that is kinked head to tail but lived and my vet doesn't think he is in pain. However he is so horrid looking that I've never posted a picture of him anywhere.

Only a small percentage of my hatchlings have been kinked but I would love to figure out how to prevent even those.

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