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Cham regularly sleeping upside down...

mdngtrain Feb 09, 2005 03:22 PM

Among other things, I've noticed that my male veiled seems to get "stuck" in a position for hours, and if the lights go out, he ends up sleeping that way. The more I read the more I think it may be a vitamin deficiency... I am using Repti-Vite 2 x's a week and t-rex Ca once a week. Is there a better vitamin source? I am feeding him meal worms gut-loaded on carrots, spinach & wheat bran (tried a number of other vitamin-filled veggies & they don't touch them). I am also starting to feed him with silk worms again (his favorite) which are only fed the worm chow. He won't eat any greens other than the hibiscus plant, and he steers clear of any fruits I've tried to give him. He also has tongue problems, much like those mentioned in other posts.
now for the basics:
He's in a screen cage (16x16x36", he's small for his 11 months) with vines, plants & branches all over the place. He has an automatic mister that goes off every hour for 45 seconds during the day & he gets misted 4-8 cups of water every morning. He's got a 100W heat light & a Repti-sun 5.0 light that is less than 6 months old. The humidity stays around 50-70% & the temp ranges from 100 at the hottest basking site to 65 at the coolest part of the cage. He's most likely inbred, so that might play a roll in all of this. Did I miss anything?
Thanks!!
~C
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1.0 Crazy dog... or duck, sheep, snake, cat & grumpy old man combo... (Gizmo)
0.2 Vacationing Kitties (Puddy, PeeWee)
1.1 Veiled Chameleons (Charlie & Emma)
0.1 Collard Lizard (Jimmie)
0.1 Leopard Gecko (Lily)
0.0.1 AWOL Leopard Gecko (Eddie)
1.0 AWOL Kitty (Mikey)
0.7 Guardian Angel Puppies (Sandy, Floppy, Lily, Crash, Tigger, Lady, Lassie)
0.1 Amazing Fiance =o)

Replies (4)

Tor038505 Feb 09, 2005 08:46 PM

Does he seem to be getting more skinny? Are his eyes closed alot? My cham would sleep upside down, with his eyes closed. I would take him out and he still wouldn't open them. He died of a diagnosed vitamin deficientcy. Have you taken him to a vet? I'd suggest that. Or maybe he could have bat genes in him.. heh
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1.0 Savannah Monitor - Artimus
2.0 Emerald Swift - Jesus, unnamed
1.0 Baby veiled Cham - Sir August De Winter 1-20-05 RIP
1.0 Green Iguana - King Arthur
1.0 Rose-hair tarantula - Bill
1.0 Basilisk - Adam
0.1 Water Dragon - Lady

jeffreypeacock Feb 10, 2005 09:41 AM

Sleeping upside down is completely normal. And my cham usually does the same, around 8:00 he'll go to his favorite branch and just sit there. Thats a signal for me to turn off the lights. Once I do he falls asleep in that exact spot. When he spends long times stationary are you sure he is not basking? Is he dark?

MdngtRain Feb 10, 2005 04:39 PM

I'm thinking it's a combination of MBD, vitamin deficiency & bad genetics. I had his favorite food (a silk worm) in front of his face & he wanted nothing to do with it. I even left the silkie on the branch in fron t of him, closed the cage door & left thre room... he hasn't touched it. He's having trouble manuvering around the cage, getting much clumsier than he has ever been. I will call the vet again tomorrow & see if he can do anything... He's also not drinking much anymore, even when I mist directly at him... Thanks for the replies.
~C
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1.0 Crazy dog... or duck, sheep, snake, cat & grumpy old man combo... (Gizmo)
0.2 Vacationing Kitties (Puddy, PeeWee)
1.1 Veiled Chameleons (Charlie & Emma)
0.1 Collard Lizard (Jimmie)
0.1 Leopard Gecko (Lily)
0.0.1 AWOL Leopard Gecko (Eddie)
1.0 AWOL Kitty (Mikey)
0.7 Guardian Angel Puppies (Sandy, Floppy, Lily, Crash, Tigger, Lady, Lassie)
0.1 Amazing Fiance =o)

ToR038505 Feb 10, 2005 07:28 PM

Yeah, get him to a vet immediately.. i waited 2 days to goto the vet because i thought it was normal but he died 20 minutes after i went to the vet =-
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1.0 Savannah Monitor - Artimus
2.0 Emerald Swift - Jesus, unnamed
1.0 Baby veiled Cham - Sir August De Winter 1-20-05 RIP
1.0 Green Iguana - King Arthur
1.0 Rose-hair tarantula - Bill
1.0 Basilisk - Adam
0.1 Water Dragon - Lady

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