This pic was sent to me by a pet store that told me that they are a couple of hypo motley x green x red CORN snakes. I think that they are a sort of ratsnakes morph or an hybrid rat x corn.
Im interested in buying them for breeding purposes but i donět want hybrids. What do you think? Are them pure rats or corns (I think rats)?
Thank you !
Flavio
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What kind of rat snake are them?
python2000
May 16, 2003 04:12 AM
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duffy
May 16, 2003 06:23 AM
If you want to breed & don't want hybrids: There are so many reputable breeders out there...Decide what YOU want to breed, and get your pick from a good breeder. Unless you live in an area where that is too hard due to shipping, etc.
The snake in the front looks at least part albino black rat to me. Possibly a hybrid. What do others think? Duffy
patricia sherman
May 17, 2003 01:02 PM
I absolutely agree, if he wants to know what he's getting, then he should buy from a reputable breeder.
The front snake does look like an albino obsoleta (P. o. obsoleta); however the colour of the back snake is suggestive of a Texas rat (P. o. lindheimeri). The tongue-colour of the back snake should give some indication of its background. If it is a lindheimeri, then it will have a red tongue, if obsoleta or quadrivittata, then the tongue will be black or blackish-grey, or possibly dark-brownish.
I've seen an intergrade quadrivittata x emoryi that was of very similar colour and pattern to the back snake. In any event, they certainly aren't corns, and almost certainly aren't corn intergrades, since there's no hint of "arrow" pattern on the head. The dark band across the forehead and through the eye screams "RAT SNAKE".
>>If you want to breed & don't want hybrids: There are so many reputable breeders out there...Decide what YOU want to breed, and get your pick from a good breeder. Unless you live in an area where that is too hard due to shipping, etc.
>> The snake in the front looks at least part albino black rat to me. Possibly a hybrid. What do others think? Duffy
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tricia
GregH
May 20, 2003 07:03 AM
Every Corn I have ever seen has the dark band through the eyes!! Every book I have ever read on Corns also calls them Rat Snakes. I don't think the dark band is any indication to what you all are calling Rat Snakes, both Corns and Rats have them in a lot of cases.
I am not the best at identifying specific snakes but I know that the Corns have that band through the eyes. I think I understand what you folks mean by "Rat Snake" and differentiating them from Corn Snakes.
Just a Thought
Greg
