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Is This A Good Price For Starter Kit??

animalfreak1988 Jul 07, 2003 12:16 AM

I found a website that sells live turtles and supplies and found a very nice looking starter kit for I think a reasonable price. The kit includes the following:
3 Baby Slider Turtles,
Filter,
Turtle Ramp,
Aquatic Turtle Book,
Baby Turtle Food,
Baby Turtle Treats,
Water Conditioner,
Sanitizer Gel,
Turtle Health Block,
Thermometer,
and a caresheet.

Is that a good price for that kit?
It has everyhting except vitamins, heat lamp, bulbs, and tank.

Replies (17)

SlipKorn Jul 07, 2003 01:53 AM

You might want to tell us the price.

animalfreak1988 Jul 07, 2003 02:08 AM

Sorry the total with shipping is $86.95

Chrysemys Jul 07, 2003 11:08 AM

No, no and no. I dont think you understand how big Red Eared Sliders get. You will need a 300gal pond for 3 turtles! Each turtle will need at least 100 gallons. Since this is your first turtle/turtles, I would start out with ONE smaller turtle. Maybe a mud/musk, or painted. Sliders can get to 12in. You could house a mud/musk in a 40gal and a painted in a 75gal. Plus the food that it includes is crap. I think you need to do some more reading before you look into buying a turtle. Go to the post below this I made about the supply list and go to the link I added. You should find it very informative.
Chris D.
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Hey mine name is Chris and I currently have 1.0 Midland Painted, 1.0 YBS, 1.1 Leopard geckos, 1.0 Bearded Dragon

Katrina Jul 07, 2003 05:43 PM

Please, please do NOT purchase a baby slider. There are hundreds of red-eared sliders out there for adoption, and if you do your homework and apply to www.turtlehomes.org , or check with your local reptile rescue or herptetological society (visit www.anapsid.org to search for one), you can probably adopt one, even a baby. Sliders get large, between 6-12" depending on sex, and you can't determine the sex of a slider until it's about 4" long. So please help save a life and don't contribute to the sale of baby sliders - adopt rather than shop.

If a slider is too large for you (a 30 gallon tank will be a MINIMUM for a male, and a female really should have a pond), then consider a captive born mud, musk, or male painted turtle.

Katrina Smith
Mid-Atlantic Turtle and Tortoise Society
Savage, MD
www.matts-turtles.org

Posted by: animalfreak1988 at Mon Jul 7 00:16:06 2003
I found a website that sells live turtles and supplies and found a very nice looking starter kit for I think a reasonable price. The kit includes the following:
3 Baby Slider Turtles,
Filter,
Turtle Ramp,
Aquatic Turtle Book,
Baby Turtle Food,
Baby Turtle Treats,
Water Conditioner,
Sanitizer Gel,
Turtle Health Block,
Thermometer,
and a caresheet.

Is that a good price for that kit?
It has everyhting except vitamins, heat lamp, bulbs, and tank.

animalfreak1988 Jul 07, 2003 11:15 PM

It is adopting. It's thru artsofnature.com

meretseger Jul 08, 2003 07:32 AM

That seriously doesn't sound like adoption to me. HOW do they know all these turtles are captive bred. WHERE are they getting them? WHY are they charging 22.93 for people 'adpotping' tiny baby turtles? Are people really giving up hundreds of cb quarter sized turtles? I very strongly suspect that this is not the sort of adoption like someone getting a dog at a shelter. This is the sort of adoption where you give someone money for a farm raised turtle. But if you're interested, I have a bunch of baby sand boas that need adoption, the fee is only $40.

Chrysemys Jul 08, 2003 10:08 AM

30 gallons? For an adult male RES? That is WAY to small. I would say 55gal is the SMALLEST you can go for an adult male. And if you have the money, go for a 75gal. Bigger is ALWAYS better...
Chris D.
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Hey mine name is Chris and I currently have 1.0 Midland Painted, 1.0 YBS, 1.1 Leopard geckos, 1.0 Bearded Dragon

Katrina Jul 09, 2003 05:45 PM

Well, when you have four people that want to give you five RES in one week, and you already have 10 in-house and at other foster homes that need homes, and a 6" male arrives in the same 10 gallon tank he's been kept in his whole life, and there is a shortage of decent homes, a 30 gallon, well-kept tank starts to look pretty good, and is an up-grade from the 10 gallon. It's not perfect, but it's a matter of logistics. I used to say 40 gallon breeder as a minimum, but as fewer homes have come available, and more turtles are offered for adoption, I have let my standards slip a little. Besides, does this girl sound like she's going to ever buy a 55 gallon for ONE turtle, let alone the THREE she's "adopting"? I've got one even better for you. I once took in FOUR adults (2.1 painteds and 0.1 slider) that arrived in the *30 gallon* tank all of them had lived in for the previous 10 years. Don't think the female slider didn't breathe a sigh of relief when the other turtles were moved out (she did eventually go to a home with a 5000 gallon fenced-in pond).

Katrina

Chrysemys Jul 09, 2003 08:15 PM

Well in my opinion if she isnt going to buy at least a 55 for a single RES which can obtain lenths up to 12in she should not get one. I have already told her what she will need. But obviously she does not care since she still persists in getting not one, not two, but three turtles, which she will not beable to care for PROPERLY.
Chris D.
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Hey mine name is Chris and I currently have 1.0 Midland Painted, 1.0 YBS, 1.1 Leopard geckos, 1.0 Bearded Dragon

Katrina Jul 09, 2003 09:40 PM

I agree there. I sent her an article on the slider problem, too. If we knew the state she's in, we could hook her up with a herp society so she could see for herself how much work they are, and potentially foster something instead of buying from Arts of Nature.

Katrina

animalfreak1988 Jul 11, 2003 01:16 PM

listen I can get my sliders from anywhere in the world I want to okay?! If I wanna get them from artsofnature I can it's my choice.

animalfreak1988 Jul 11, 2003 01:11 PM

i already have a 55 gallon and am only planned on getting one!!

animalfreak1988 Jul 11, 2003 01:07 PM

Actaully I already have a 55 gallon prepared thank you very much!! And, I don't happen to be a girl....I'm not a kid!

animalfreak1988 Jul 11, 2003 01:10 PM

i dont want any of ur snakes..if i wanted a snake id be in the snake forum. im not im in the turtle forum.

Katrina Jul 09, 2003 09:43 PM

Arts of Nature is NOT an adoption organization. If it were, they would have more than BABY turtles for "adoption". Ask if you can "adopt" a turtle without purchasing the other things with it.

Have you considered fostering a turtle for a local reptile rescue or herp society? That way, you can still care for a turtle, and if your mom throws a fit, you can return the turtle, or just hold it until an adopter is available. You get the experience and help a turtle. Visit www.anapsid.org to find a rescue or society near you.

Katrina

animalfreak1988 Jul 11, 2003 01:08 PM

I can just adopt turtles by their self.

amazinglyricist Jul 11, 2003 10:54 AM

Just get them a large childrens wading pool, some good filtration and a good heat lamp that provides the vitamins they need. And you should be fine.

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