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New IL law, do you want the gov to tell you where you can and cannot buy feed from????

thecaiman Feb 11, 2005 11:30 AM

I havnt had time to completly read this law but to my understanding what they are doing is taking the law governing pet stores rewording and adding a few things so it effects private owner ship as well. Do you own birds, if this passes the only legal way you will be able to by bird feed is with a prescription from a vet "Good quality, wholesome food" for birds means that prescribed by an Avian veterinarian" Thats copied and pasted do you want to be told its illegal for you to buy bird feed at Walmart? Anyway heres is the link to the law itd effect all parts of the animal industry in IL. WE MUST ACT NOW THEY ARE VOTING NEXT WENSDAY,They are trying to sneak this one through it is moving fast.

http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/fulltext.asp?DocName=&SessionId=50&GA=94&DocTypeId=HB&DocNum=0707&GAID=8&LegID=15187&SpecSess=&Session=

Heres is a link to the commitee that will be voting on it next wensday
http://www.ilga.gov/house/committees/members.asp?committeeID=209
Call you local news papers, call the managers of your local Walmart let them know if allowed to pass this bill will effect there sales, call every pet store you can and write these people, act now and make you entire famiily act!
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Jason & Danica
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deviledapple Feb 11, 2005 03:28 PM

lawmakers are so naive.. prescribed by a vet just means it has a few fancy words on it and a higher price tag... sometimes more junk you dont want in your animals than what you were getting beforehand.
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thecaiman Feb 11, 2005 03:45 PM

thats what gets me most, In all honesty I would tend to think there would be some serious lawsuits flying around because that gives the vets and unfar advatage to sell that product, who knows, Ive contacted 40 plus pet stores today, spoken with the corperate offices of walmart, petco and petsmart( all sell animal products that woulds be effected by this law) and also the chicago sun time, tribune, two quincy papers, one jacksonville paper, 2 springfield papers and a bunch of other so hopefully we can get this thing stopped, everyopne is having a good laugh at the bird food thing though
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Jason & Danica
Don't wanna wait 'til tomorrow Why put it off another day? One by one, little problems Build up, and stand in our way. Oh One step ahead, one step behind it Now ya gotta run to get even Make future plans I'll dream about yesterday, hey! Come on turn, turn this thing around (Right now) Hey! It's your tomorrow (Right now) Come on, it's everything (Right now) Catch your magic moment (Right now) Catch your magic moment Do it right here and now Do it right here and now, IT MEANS EVERYTHING (Van Halen, Right Now)

So am I still waiting for this world to stop hating/Can't find a good reason, can't find hope to believe in/...You can't change the state of the nation we just need/ some motivation...So am I still waiting for this world to stop hating(Sum41 Still Waiting)


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Randall_Turner Feb 11, 2005 11:30 PM

Jason, myself and another person were scanning through this proposed bill, and other then the "Good quality, wholesome food" for birds means that prescribed by an Avian veterinarian we didn't see anything other then a bill that appears to be something that is being put in place to be capable of punishing those who are found to be committing cruel treatment toward animals.. Did we miss anything? Not trying to argue or show support for this bill, just trying to see the entire picture.. Thanks
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Randall L Turner Jr.
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thecaiman Feb 12, 2005 07:30 AM

Randy its being pushed by PETA, ive had some people who deal with the laws on a daily basis interprut it for me and this law is not a good thing. Its is intentionally written in a very vague language. Under this law anyone who transfers an animal in anyway shape or form must be permitted and inspected. I.E. you pick up a stray cat and give it to a someone according to this law you must be permitted and inspected prior to tranferring it to the person. Under they vague language of this proposed law next year when you show up for Tinley you may be required to get permitted and inspected. There are no caging requiremnets written within this law, why? because without specific requirments to be met it can be interpruted and used by investagating officers, judges courts etc to whatever means they see to fit the situation. No differant then the way they state uses the current dangerous animal act, its just as vague however one officaer will arrest you and confiscate that 10ft burm while another will not. Some will arrest you for venomoids and some will not. Now regaurdless of whether you found guilty of violating the dangerous animals act for a 10ft burm until the hearing you get to pay room and board for the animal. Guilty or not you get to pay up. Theres is no reason why a vague law like this should be allowed to pass in any form. It was not written by animal people to better the animal industry it was written by hunamiacs to make everyones lves more diffucult. I hiopes this better explains
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Jason & Danica
Don't wanna wait 'til tomorrow Why put it off another day? One by one, little problems Build up, and stand in our way. Oh One step ahead, one step behind it Now ya gotta run to get even Make future plans I'll dream about yesterday, hey! Come on turn, turn this thing around (Right now) Hey! It's your tomorrow (Right now) Come on, it's everything (Right now) Catch your magic moment (Right now) Catch your magic moment Do it right here and now Do it right here and now, IT MEANS EVERYTHING (Van Halen, Right Now)

So am I still waiting for this world to stop hating/Can't find a good reason, can't find hope to believe in/...You can't change the state of the nation we just need/ some motivation...So am I still waiting for this world to stop hating(Sum41 Still Waiting)


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Randall_Turner Feb 12, 2005 07:41 AM

That does make more sense on why its a bad idea to let pass.. I did think it was fairly vague, but wasn't sure what the outright negatives are.. Hopefully you will be successful in stopping this..
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Randall L Turner Jr.
www.aircapitalconstrictors.com

thecaiman Feb 12, 2005 09:40 AM

The other thing that must be kept in mind with this law is the speed at which it is moving. It was proposed last week and is being voted on next week. That sends up a ton of red flags for me. When they propose something there supposed to make public notice of it for feedback etc. When something is run through this fast they do not want public feedback, they want to get it done and over with.
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Jason & Danica
Don't wanna wait 'til tomorrow Why put it off another day? One by one, little problems Build up, and stand in our way. Oh One step ahead, one step behind it Now ya gotta run to get even Make future plans I'll dream about yesterday, hey! Come on turn, turn this thing around (Right now) Hey! It's your tomorrow (Right now) Come on, it's everything (Right now) Catch your magic moment (Right now) Catch your magic moment Do it right here and now Do it right here and now, IT MEANS EVERYTHING (Van Halen, Right Now)

So am I still waiting for this world to stop hating/Can't find a good reason, can't find hope to believe in/...You can't change the state of the nation we just need/ some motivation...So am I still waiting for this world to stop hating(Sum41 Still Waiting)


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