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Hubby was having a good old time a few nights ago herping and brough back a couple Cuban tree frogs. Well... Saturday the female laid eggs and Sunday morning we had tadpoles! I had no idea it happened that fast!!!

Anyway, now we have about 60 Cuban taddies! I don't want to release them due to the havock they cause on the natives here in FL but I don't want to destroy them either. So if anyone is interested in some Cuban Tree Frogs email me at EllasMommie@yahoo.com I'm guessing they will be ready in about 2 months or so. We are going to sell them for about $2 per froggie plus shipping and handling.

I figured I'd see if we could find them homes on our own before asking a local herp shop if they wanted them.
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Heather

Hey Heather... Better check your local and state wildlife laws before launching your frog enterprise. Using the U.S.P.S. and sending animals across state lines will involve the Federal Gov, too. It might be illegal. Also, check the forum link for rules and regulations about posting items for sale. I believe it's a violation of site policy.

i would be iterested....my bullfrogs need practice eating other frogs :}LOL
just kidding about the bullfrog feeding, but i would be interested in about 5 or so

Interestingly, I've read from a book published by Barron's and written by Barlett and Barlett which suggested housing an adult bullfrog in a 50 gallon minimum. Many people on this forum suggested at least 100 gal.; I don't know why that is. I think frogs, unlike primates, likes enclosed area because they have evolved to hide in small place unreachable by their larger predator. We primate evolve climbing trees and fleeing predator by climbing higher and jumping from tree to tree which is always a large open space...that's why some people feel claustrophobic. He did mention larger is better, which I think is good for getting exercise and better heat gradient and they may very like larger size provided with hiding space.

don't tell anyone but i've been keeping my frog in a 30 gallon...he's been doing fine for over 4 years and he was wild caught. bigger is better and he is now in a 55 gallon ....but he, like most reptiles and amphibions , dosen't run around a whole lot. mostly in to heat out of heat and to catch food

Give it up, guys. Most folks around here aren't satisfied with your own successful tactics unless they hear that you're keeping your solitary spring peeper in a four-thousand gallon vivarium. I've read that same book, Knot. The difference is this... you have a book written by a professional and this is the internet overrun with amatures and bad english. You do the math.

About the bullfrog tank size; I know that female bullfrogs can get about 9 inches snout to vent; I picked up one that big on a recent herp hunt, and let it go. I would think that even a 75 gallon tank would be much too small for this frog. They produce a tremendous amount of waste for one thing, and a females leap can be aaaabout 3-5 feet long, which would mean she would be crashing into the sides of the tank.
I think bullfrogs make bad captives in an aquarium anyway. An indoor or, in native areas, an outdoor pond is much better for them; unless a large tank is provided. For an inactive frog like, say a horned frog, I agree that a large tank is rather foolish, because my horned frogs rarely move from their "favorite" corners of the tank.
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*~Ginevive~*

Of course I agree that the larger the enclosure, the better for a ranidae. But let's make one thing clear... a wild caught bullfrog will -of course- be crashing into the sides of the enclosure. Same as a wild caught horse will kick it's stall or a domestic cat that was allowed to roam and is suddenly prevented access to the outdoors will be very upset. My two bullfrogs were raised as captives from tadpoles. (My little nephews actually raised the tads but lost interest in them after the tads morphed. Their mother was threatening to flush them until I pulled a coup and rescued them from a swirling death). My 55 was stored in the garage rafters so I bought it down, fixed it up, and tried to re-create as natural enviroment as possible with the space available. It's been over two years now and I've never seen or heard either of them jump into the top or sides of the enclosure. Their snouts aren't damaged, their webbing isn't torn or rotting, the male calls almost nightly, their appetites are robust, their eyes are clear, their color is bold... not faded or dull, and when they do get startled... their jumps are accurate and measured... almost like they marked it off and calculated the leap with precision to prevent any collision with tops, sides, or decorations inside their crib. I think Ginevive is one of the more smarter, sharper, and dedicated "Phib" keepers on this site and I appreciate her concern for the well being of these handsome, athletic, and irresistable little jumpers!

my bullfrog (wild caught) has never "bashed" in to the sides of his 30 gallon cage. his cage is in my room so i would hear it. i do how ever hear his nightly calls which i could do without :} but i have learned to live with. and for those of you who are wondering he is full grown . I have recently put him in a 75 gallon that i aquired.....but he spends most of his time sitting in the water dish. even my 2 recent wild caught bullfrogs dont bash in to the sides. you gotta give the suckers room to move but you dont have to cage off your room

I am really glad you saved them; how could someone flush them down the toilet. As long as they are healthy and eating, and not injuring one another then it's ok. I had mine in a 55g tank for a while, and he really did not seem to mind, but the water became soiled faster and I wanted to put him in a larger envireonment. I think gallons is a bad way to measuer frog enclosures, anyway. It should be more like, five times the frog's width by ten times its body length or something, according to what frog someone is are talking about.
I think a 55 gallon is ok for a male, but the 9''-plus female I saw last year would have forever been hitting into the lid!
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*~Ginevive~*

A nine-inch bullfrog is a pretty damn big amphibian! Put a hood on her head and she could probably wrestle professionally! I couldn't agree more about the mistake of measuring enclosures by the gallon for amphibians. It's a perfect measurement for fish since they utilize every gallon but frogs (especially terrestrial species; not so much tree or aquatic species) need ground/surface area. I hope to make my own custom enclosure for my bullfrogs someday but until then, the 55 seems to leave them content. By the way... whenever company stops by, they're startled when the male starts his booming call. Me and my cat don't even raise an eyebrow anymore.

nah...bullfrogs have a future..wrestlers don't:}
most of my pets are in my room. between the frogs bellowing and the tokays smashing mice against the glass before eating them I have had many sleepless nights. i dont mind so much anymore but my G/F still isn't used to it.....but she snores so it seems fair to me LOL :}

Email me with your state, city and zip and I can figure shipping cost. That way I'll also have your email to contact you when they are ready to go.
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Heather

"Hey Heather... Better check your local and state wildlife laws before launching your frog enterprise. Using the U.S.P.S. and sending animals across state lines will involve the Federal Gov, too. It might be illegal. Also, check the forum link for rules and regulations about posting items for sale. I believe it's a violation of site policy."

Opps, really? Sorry about posting sometihng for sale, I just thought I'd ask. I'm not making a business breeding these frog, just had this batch and didn't want to kill them or release them. So I thought I'd see if I could other options.

We kept the three males but not the female so that we didn't end up with more eggs and tads. The only reason we are asking anything for these guys is just to cover the cost of thw set up to raise them.

We will be using FedEx and UPS, the same as the herp shops use around us.
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Heather

Kudo's for your ambition to start a business venture but I still think it wise to check local, state, and federal wildlife laws before carrying out your plan. Also, be careful about tax law violations, too. The government always has their hand out for a piece of the action and get a little miffed if you don't share.

OH, this is by no means a business venture, this is a one time thing. We wern't expecting eggs, especially since I didn't think the water bowl was really big enough. (Goes to show the determination of horny frogs LOL) After these tads are grown and find homes we won't be doing it again. I am by no means a breeder, I'm just looking to place this one batch. I haven't the room or time to devote to actually breeding. I do so enjoy raising tadpoles but I'm not goin to make a habit of it. I simply don't want to release 50 some cubans into an area that is already over run by them. Last thing I want to do is help the Cuban population with more of an army to gobble up the locals.
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Heather

The only reason I am asking for anything more than shipping is to just cover the cost of what I had to buy to raise the tads. I figure about $2 per frog should do it. And left over froggies will be taken into a herp shop for nothing more than possibly store credit.
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Heather

Heather, if you are able to give them to a local shop, could you ask them if they'd take in four adults, too? I seriously doubt that a store near me would be interested. Actually, I want to keep the cute little buggers, but I can't afford to buy or keep (space-wise) two huge tanks, in addition to everything else. Thanks (if you actually read this old post)!