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Jared,

The Het Red Axanthics produced directly from the Red Axanthics are more intricately patterned. However, just like all the other mutations out there they are highly variable in both colour and pattern.

Het Red Axanthics directly from my breeder Red Axanthic male to normal females. The banded is in the pic for something to go by.

Het Red Axanthics from Het Red Axanthic male bred to normal females. The banded is in the pic for something to go by.

ballpython3468,

The first Red Axanthics produced were 2.0 in 2001 (and 0.2 in 2002). Ralph Davis first produced het Red Axanthics from his Red Axanthic male in 2003 and I produced them directly from my male in 2004. My Red Axanthic male was a shy breeder in 2003 so I can't say that I sired offspring directly from him as I used his father (het) as a back up. Ralph or I haven't produced any crossed involving the Red Axanthics as of yet. My females didn't produce and Ralph got one clutch from his albino female that went bad (she's been bred by 3 different males and all 3 clutches have gone bad...........published in his birthing records).

Here is a cross I'm working on for this year. The Red Axanthic female has large follicles..........my fingers are crossed.

Also, Here is the same Red Axanthic female (adult...2002) beside a Het Red Axanthic (2004).

Corey

Looking good Corey. Best of luck with that Red Axanthic female. Eric

np

Killer snakes!

JAred H

np

Hey Corey,

Would you consider your "hets" Co-dominate? I think that the red axanthic is the super form.

Why call them hets then? Do you think its recessive in some way?
They rock either way.

Let me know what you think
Raul

Raul,

The Red Axanthic is definately Co-Dominant. The "Het Red Axanthics" are comparable to a pastel and the "Red Axanthic" is comparable to a Super Pastel. The name just kind of stuck...... As far as names go I'm not very creative.

Corey

I actually think we should be using the term "het" more often with dominant and co-dominant mutations.

People seem to have it stuck in their head that a het has to look normal back from the first hets they learned about (het albinos and other recessive morphs).

The term heterozygous actually just means that the animal has an unmatched pair of genes, usually one mutant and one normal copy of the same gene. Heterozygous doesn't really mean a normal looking animal with a hidden gene, it just works out that way with recessive mutations. A pastel is just as much a het for the pastel gene (one normal copy and one mutant copy) as a het albino is het for the albino gene.

Using the genotype terms (heterozygous and homozygous) will become quite useful if a completely dominant gene is ever proven out (i.e. if homozygous spiders or pinstripes end up looking just like the heterozygous ones we see now). “Super” isn’t really a genetic term. If anything it’s a phenotype (appearance) term that describes a homozygous that looks different from a het (i.e. super pastel vs. regular/het pastel). If the homozygous spider or pinstripe looks the same as the heterozygous ones then they really aren’t “Super” looking so the best way (IMHO) to describe them would be to call them homozygous spider and homozygous pinstripe and that will let people know that they will produce all heterozygous spiders and pinstripes bred to normals.

Also, the same rules for expected offspring ratios apply regardless of mutation type if you look at the genotypes. A homozygous albino X a heterozygous albino gives babies each with a 50/50 chance of being either homozygous albino or heterozygous albino. A homozygous Mojave (leucistic) X a heterozygous Mojave (a regular Mojave) will produce babies with a 50/50 chance of being either homozygous (leucistic) or heterozygous (regular Mojave).

Also keep in mind that the mutation type (recessive, co-dominant, completely dominant) doesn't change depending on if you are looking at a heterozygous or homozygous animal. For example, the red axanthic mutation has shown it's self to be co-dominant. A het red axanthic is no more or less co-dominant than a homozygous red axanthic. Albino is still recessive regardless of if you are talking about a het albino or a homozygous albino.

Your Red Axanthics are KILLER!!...Far superior than any other Axanthics out there....cause these still look AWESOME as adults!!...jmo.....even the Het Reds are Sweet!!

Best of luck with your girl......KILLER project!

np

The Red Axanthic is much more appealing in the flesh. When I saw Ralph's male my jaw hit the floor. They are beautiful morphs all by themselves! I will be attempting a het to Albino breeding this season...

Oz
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Oz,

I hope you produce double hets this year. I don't even own an albino female...........so it's going to be years until we see results unless someone other than myself does it.

Good luck with this years breedings.
Corey

Looks good Corey, I think the hets look as good as some of the other morphs out there and of course the Red Axanthics are pretty hot. It's intersting that you are breeding to a Lesser. What do you think that will look like and what are you hoping for?

VOT

VOT,

It was a toss up between the Lesser, Genetic Stripe or Pastel Ghost. The Lesser won the coin toss. Although, I would like to see house the patternless sides of the Genetic stripe battle it out with the crazy pattern of the Red Axanthic/Hets. That's a project for next year. I'm not sure what a lesser het will look like...........I guess we'll either see (or not) this summer.

Thanks for the kind words.
Corey

..but I think the Red Axanthic is awesome! Beautiful snakes Cory thanks for sharing.

And good luck with the RA x LP breeding, I'm glad the lesser won the coin toss and can't wait to see what pops out, pls keep us updated

Once again good luck with your breeding projects

Thanks for the kind words. I'd like to produce some type of cross involving the Red Axanthics. But, by looking at things I may have more crosses involving the Lessers than Red Axanthics. As a breeder all you can do is let them breed......it's all upto the females on whether or not they are going to produce.

Corey

Having seen Ralph's Red Axanthic in person, I think they are one of the better morphs out there!!! Definitely something I would like to own one day.

Tom

Tom,

Thanks for the kind words. More people need to see them to appreciate them. Lets hope I produce more of them this year. I've only have the original mother and 2 daughters bred to either the Red Axanthic or hets for this season.

Corey

I love the brown/caramel larger female.....that may make something cool with the Lesser platty!

Better hope it does not make white snakes!!!

I bet it will!! Kev

>>Jared,
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>>The Het Red Axanthics produced directly from the Red Axanthics are more intricately patterned. However, just like all the other mutations out there they are highly variable in both colour and pattern.
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>>Het Red Axanthics directly from my breeder Red Axanthic male to normal females. The banded is in the pic for something to go by.
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>>Het Red Axanthics from Het Red Axanthic male bred to normal females. The banded is in the pic for something to go by.
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>>ballpython3468,
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>>The first Red Axanthics produced were 2.0 in 2001 (and 0.2 in 2002). Ralph Davis first produced het Red Axanthics from his Red Axanthic male in 2003 and I produced them directly from my male in 2004. My Red Axanthic male was a shy breeder in 2003 so I can't say that I sired offspring directly from him as I used his father (het) as a back up. Ralph or I haven't produced any crossed involving the Red Axanthics as of yet. My females didn't produce and Ralph got one clutch from his albino female that went bad (she's been bred by 3 different males and all 3 clutches have gone bad...........published in his birthing records).
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>>Here is a cross I'm working on for this year. The Red Axanthic female has large follicles..........my fingers are crossed.
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>>Also, Here is the same Red Axanthic female (adult...2002) beside a Het Red Axanthic (2004).
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>>Corey
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Thanks for the kind words Kevin. Lets hope it doesn't make a white snake!

Corey

Where exactly do the "red Axanthics" come from ? Did you import them yourself ? Is the line Ralph Davis is working with the same or did he import his ?
Paul Edwards

I produced the first (and only) Red Axanthics in existance. I produced 2 males in 2001 and sold one to Ralph.

Corey