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Awesome animals Mike!!
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The more people I meet...the better I like my venomous snakes.

"Albino hypERmelanistic"? Huh?

Im no expert, but I think it's the hypomelanistic phase as an albino.
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Tom
TCJ Herps
"The more people I meet, the more I like my snakes"

wouldn't that just be hyper-amelanistic?

I'm not sure if the big "ER" in your response was because you thought it should be hypo instead. But hypomelanistic would be lacking melanin, hypermelanistic would be having more, but not totally melanistic. Sooo.... yeah... wouldn't it be hyperAmelanistic? Not trying to sound like a jerk... just curious.
Will

Well, again, sometimes I even confuse these terms, but heres what I get from this, more in depth this time.
The snake in question was made in a 2 part process straying from the original wild caught form. The first variation was an excessive amount of melanin around the head area, creating the hypermelanistic phase. Then, this phase was twisted into an albino form, so now the solid melanistic areas on the snake, are now totally void of any color, which results in the albino form.
Step back and take a melanistic eastern hognose in the same situation. A solid black hognose. Now mutate that into an albino, what do you get? A solid single colored white, orange, yellow, or whatever hognose with red eyes.
Hypo would be reduced black, but still has the other colors (mainly red) showing thru.
My brain hurts now...........gotta go. If Im wrong about that......uhhh, sorry. My bad.
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Tom
TCJ Herps
"The more people I meet, the more I like my snakes"

>>wouldn't that just be hyper-amelanistic?
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>>I'm not sure if the big "ER" in your response was because you thought it should be hypo instead. But hypomelanistic would be lacking melanin, hypermelanistic would be having more, but not totally melanistic. Sooo.... yeah... wouldn't it be hyperAmelanistic? Not trying to sound like a jerk... just curious.
>>Will

Hyper- means having more.
Hypo- means having less.
A- means having none.
HyperAmelanistic wouldn't be very meaningful, I don't think...

The one he has labled "albino hypermelanistic" looks to my uneducated eyes like it would have LESS melanin than the one he has lebled "albino", but I could be wrong. Maybe he just means that it's what he got by crossing albinos with hypomelanistics? Just guessing...

> Maybe he just means that it's what he got by crossing albinos with hypomelanistics? Just guessing...

Oops, I meant hyper here of course... No wmy head hurts too...

Unfortunately, I don't have the answer. Hyperamelanistic would be a new term - you may have coined a phrase.? The "Albino Hypermelanistic" is an amelanistic version of the hypermelanistic morph. To the best of my knowledge, it is the first Dbl. homozygous WDB. It was produced from breeding Triple Hets. (Hypermelanistic, Albino, & Caramel Albino) together. The translucent pink colour visible on the first three-quarters of the animal should change to white as the animal matures. I would like to see a Caramel Albino Hypermelanistic which would theoretically be purple & orange. Thanks for the kind words Al......

Hehehe, Hyperamelanistic would mean there REALLY REALLY REALLY isnt any black coloring in it. Kinda funny.
Yea, btw, great looking snakes no matter what they're "called".
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Tom
TCJ Herps
"The more people I meet, the more I like my snakes"

yeah... the more I think about it, the more it makes sense. Hypermelanistic means a lot more black. Hypomelanistic means a lot less black. So if Amelanistic means no black, hyperamelanistic means a lot of no black, which the only think more than amelanistic, could mean the aberant pattern look that those WDB's def have. I've seen your aberant albino EDB's, and that's what they remind me of. They look like an aberant amel atrox, and it would only make sense to call them a hyperamelanistic atrox. I mean... after all... they're hypermelanistic plus amelanistic, so it'd make sense to call them a hyperamelanistic. Or maybe just aberant pattern albino atrox? haha... this is crazy... what ever happened to just being excited over an albino atrox??? nonetheless.... GREAT looking snake.
Will

Thanx Will!!