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I posted this picture below but thought it needed a better title. So here is a female that was 3900 grams and ended up laying me 12 eggs. She is bred with 2 different pastels.

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1.0 Pied(04)(RDR)
1.0 Albino(04)(RDR)
0.1 Spider(04)(RDR)
3.2 Pastels(03's)(04's)(ASF,Graziani,Bell lines)
0.1 Yellow belly(unproven)(04)
1.3 Yellow belly(unproven)(02,03,04's)
2.0 100% HET CLOWN(04's)(MHMR)
3.3 100% het albinos(03's)(high contrast bell line)
0.1 poss Het Albino(03's)
2.0 100% het pieds(03's)(Vin Russo,CRE)
0.2 100% het pieds(03's)(04's)(RDR,TWL)
1.2 Poss het pieds(03's)(PETE KAHL)
2.1 Poss het pieds(00's)(01's) hoping to get PIEDS this year(Vin Russo, Pete Kahl)
25 Normal adult females
60 04 females
15 normal mixed 03's
20 Assorted weird ball pythons 04's

Wow........A Ball Python Breeders dream is to have an army of Fat pig 3500g-4000g females. I plan for my avergae clutch to be 5 eggs......Holy cow a clutch of 12 could certainly help the average out a bit.

A good friend of mine last year got a clutch of 11....and ended up with 2 pastels.....OUCH! I hope your odds are better.

Congrats on the beautiful clutch!
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Jim Perron
Python Passion Reptiles
pythonpassion@hotmail.com
www.pythonpassionreptiles.com

I have heard of several high clutches of pastel to normals with LOW pastel babies ratio to normales. So I am not really counting on many pastels from this clutch but it cannot hurt to HOPE for a higher ratio than ONE pastel baby....LOL.... This female laid 7 eggs last year, 6 good one bad, I managed to hatch 5 out of the 6, but that was due to me cutting one egg early. I won't make the same mistake this year. But I was just happy to see she increased her clutch size by almost double. Last year she was just bred to a poss het pied. I kept 1.2 babies from last year just to see what they would turn out to look like and in hopes that the poss het pied male is het. I know it is a long shot but you never know. I have a PIED male now so I guess I will find out in a few years. I cannot wait to see what she throws this season. Good luck to everyone. Thanks David

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1.0 Pied(04)(RDR)
1.0 Albino(04)(RDR)
0.1 Spider(04)(RDR)
3.2 Pastels(03's)(04's)(ASF,Graziani,Bell lines)
0.1 Yellow belly(unproven)(04)
1.3 Yellow belly(unproven)(02,03,04's)
2.0 100% HET CLOWN(04's)(MHMR)
3.3 100% het albinos(03's)(high contrast bell line)
0.1 poss Het Albino(03's)
2.0 100% het pieds(03's)(Vin Russo,CRE)
0.2 100% het pieds(03's)(04's)(RDR,TWL)
1.2 Poss het pieds(03's)(PETE KAHL)
2.1 Poss het pieds(00's)(01's) hoping to get PIEDS this year(Vin Russo, Pete Kahl)
25 Normal adult females
60 04 females
15 normal mixed 03's
20 Assorted weird ball pythons 04's

I am JEALOUS!!!!!
That is quite the big clutch!! Kev

I got a clutch today but it was only 8.... boo hoo me!
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www.newenglandreptile.com
The Most Extensive Collection of Ball Python Mutations in Captivity

Yes Kevin, You may have gotten a smaller clutch but what was it? that is the BIG question...LOL...mine was just pastel to normal, I am very happy of my big female but I just wish I had a male spider or mojave to put with her, Maybe next year she will get a better morph, not that I have anything against pastels its just that I want to move up the ladder. I am hoping to get a few pastels this season to help fund some other projects I want to work with. Thanks for the comments. Good luck to everyone this season, DAVID

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1.0 Pied(04)(RDR)
1.0 Albino(04)(RDR)
0.1 Spider(04)(RDR)
3.2 Pastels(03's)(04's)(ASF,Graziani,Bell lines)
0.1 Yellow belly(unproven)(04)
1.3 Yellow belly(unproven)(02,03,04's)
2.0 100% HET CLOWN(04's)(MHMR)
3.3 100% het albinos(03's)(high contrast bell line)
0.1 poss Het Albino(03's)
2.0 100% het pieds(03's)(Vin Russo,CRE)
0.2 100% het pieds(03's)(04's)(RDR,TWL)
1.2 Poss het pieds(03's)(PETE KAHL)
2.1 Poss het pieds(00's)(01's) hoping to get PIEDS this year(Vin Russo, Pete Kahl)
25 Normal adult females
60 04 females
15 normal mixed 03's
20 Assorted weird ball pythons 04's

>>Yes Kevin, You may have gotten a smaller clutch but what was it? that is the BIG question...LOL...mine was just pastel to normal, I am very happy of my big female but I just wish I had a male spider or mojave to put with her, Maybe next year she will get a better morph, not that I have anything against pastels its just that I want to move up the ladder. I am hoping to get a few pastels this season to help fund some other projects I want to work with. Thanks for the comments. Good luck to everyone this season, DAVID
>Normal to Normal....

I am hoping for some Leucistics!!!!

...a bit better than that.....

Very nice clutch!!!

Kev
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www.newenglandreptile.com
The Most Extensive Collection of Ball Python Mutations in Captivity

Geeeez, and mine are still just having sex!! Would be nice to see all of them hatch wouldn't it? Prayers goin' up for better odds for ya.

WOW you got 152 snakes? nice stock

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Jay A. Martin

Hope you get a bunch of pastels in there!

Jared H

I think she deserves a nice big juicy rat for her efforts! Congratulations, and good luck, may the pastel gods be with you! Were you breeding a particular line with her?
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Tosha

8.8.0 Ball Python (Harry and Fluffy and currently un-named)
0.2.0 Feline (Pippen and Pandora)
0.0.1 Dessert Tortoise (Pope)
7.9.5 Fish (1,2,3,4...)
0.0.1 Frog rescued from pool skimmer
0.0.2 Lizards rescued from pool skimmer

Well Tosha, I started out with a Bell line and a Graziani line and I put 5 females in with each male in a large cage, The Graziani male started with that female but due to a small misfortune I had to put the Graziani on HOLD, So I threw the bell line in with the cage of Graziani females to make sure they bred, So far everything looks good and the Graziani Male is back up and breeding. I will have Bell line and then MUTTS, Mutts meaning I won't be sure what line is produced, So they will just be PASTELs, I am pretty sure the 12 eggs are from the bell line but since both males bred, who knows? Thanks David

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1.0 Pied(04)(RDR)
1.0 Albino(04)(RDR)
0.1 Spider(04)(RDR)
3.2 Pastels(03's)(04's)(ASF,Graziani,Bell lines)
0.1 Yellow belly(unproven)(04)
1.3 Yellow belly(unproven)(02,03,04's)
2.0 100% HET CLOWN(04's)(MHMR)
3.3 100% het albinos(03's)(high contrast bell line)
0.1 poss Het Albino(03's)
2.0 100% het pieds(03's)(Vin Russo,CRE)
0.2 100% het pieds(03's)(04's)(RDR,TWL)
1.2 Poss het pieds(03's)(PETE KAHL)
2.1 Poss het pieds(00's)(01's) hoping to get PIEDS this year(Vin Russo, Pete Kahl)
25 Normal adult females
60 04 females
15 normal mixed 03's
20 Assorted weird ball pythons 04's

didn't you David?

Right on man!
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Greg Holland
G&M HERPS
www.gmherps.com
gmherps@sbcglobal.net

YES I did, I palpated her and she seemed to have 12 eggs, and that is what she laid. I feel pretty confident about palpating females for eggs, I guess this stems from all of the female colubrids I have palpated in the past. I am expecting 8 more eggs soon and the next female has 8 also. So it looks like my first 3 clutches from PASTEL to NORMAL will be 12, 8, 8, that would be a pretty good start to the 2005 season. Thanks David

Here is one of the other females with 8 eggs palpated. she is kool looking also. Now she is bred with a Bell line ONLY.

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1.0 Pied(04)(RDR)
1.0 Albino(04)(RDR)
0.1 Spider(04)(RDR)
3.2 Pastels(03's)(04's)(ASF,Graziani,Bell lines)
0.1 Yellow belly(unproven)(04)
1.3 Yellow belly(unproven)(02,03,04's)
2.0 100% HET CLOWN(04's)(MHMR)
3.3 100% het albinos(03's)(high contrast bell line)
0.1 poss Het Albino(03's)
2.0 100% het pieds(03's)(Vin Russo,CRE)
0.2 100% het pieds(03's)(04's)(RDR,TWL)
1.2 Poss het pieds(03's)(PETE KAHL)
2.1 Poss het pieds(00's)(01's) hoping to get PIEDS this year(Vin Russo, Pete Kahl)
25 Normal adult females
60 04 females
15 normal mixed 03's
20 Assorted weird ball pythons 04's

Nice clutch. I think you'll get a pastel or two...Just don't let water drip on those bad boys and you should be fine...

So, how many years old is that female?

Thanks,

Rob

I am not really sure on the age of this female. I got her around the summer of 2003 and she bred the following fall of 2003-2004 season, but they were just normal/Poss het Pied breedings, This season I put her with my pastel. She was pretty large when I got her. Thanks david
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1.0 Pied(04)(RDR)
1.0 Albino(04)(RDR)
0.1 Spider(04)(RDR)
3.2 Pastels(03's)(04's)(ASF,Graziani,Bell lines)
0.1 Yellow belly(unproven)(04)
1.3 Yellow belly(unproven)(02,03,04's)
2.0 100% HET CLOWN(04's)(MHMR)
3.3 100% het albinos(03's)(high contrast bell line)
0.1 poss Het Albino(03's)
2.0 100% het pieds(03's)(Vin Russo,CRE)
0.2 100% het pieds(03's)(04's)(RDR,TWL)
1.2 Poss het pieds(03's)(PETE KAHL)
2.1 Poss het pieds(00's)(01's) hoping to get PIEDS this year(Vin Russo, Pete Kahl)
25 Normal adult females
60 04 females
15 normal mixed 03's
20 Assorted weird ball pythons 04's

If she was WC, did you get her to lay her first year in captivity? Unheard of...

Good luck,

Rob

I am figuring she is a wild collected but I do not believe she was a fresh wild collected. She laid about 6-8 months after I got her. I got her right before fall and then I put her with a male and she laid eggs. Thanks david

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1.0 Pied(04)(RDR)
1.0 Albino(04)(RDR)
0.1 Spider(04)(RDR)
3.2 Pastels(03's)(04's)(ASF,Graziani,Bell lines)
0.1 Yellow belly(unproven)(04)
1.3 Yellow belly(unproven)(02,03,04's)
2.0 100% HET CLOWN(04's)(MHMR)
3.3 100% het albinos(03's)(high contrast bell line)
0.1 poss Het Albino(03's)
2.0 100% het pieds(03's)(Vin Russo,CRE)
0.2 100% het pieds(03's)(04's)(RDR,TWL)
1.2 Poss het pieds(03's)(PETE KAHL)
2.1 Poss het pieds(00's)(01's) hoping to get PIEDS this year(Vin Russo, Pete Kahl)
25 Normal adult females
60 04 females
15 normal mixed 03's
20 Assorted weird ball pythons 04's

DragonDavy

np
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maybe we'll see some record clutches this year! Thanks for sharing and good luck with all the ones to come.

Debra and Diana
Camlon Reptiles