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questions about frog morphs and gentics?

micahdenton Feb 24, 2005 10:46 PM

ok, helo everybody this isn't me normal forum but was think about setting up a frog tank and had some questions. I noticed tha d, tinctorius has a couple of morphs like the blue sioaiwini, lorenzo, oelemari, alanis, all are great looking frogs. is it possable to mix pairs or groups of these frogs and get tapoles that care the genes to make the different color morphs like snakes do are are they different enough that they cant be crossed, if they cross are they intergrades or are the hets (simple recive genes like albino snakes) just wounder about frog genes any thoughts on the matter would be great. thanks

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slaytonp Feb 25, 2005 11:37 PM

You may have landed among some puritans here. I'm just going to sit back and enjoy the show.
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Patty
Pahsimeroi, Idaho

4 D. auratus blue
5 D. galactonotus pumpkin orange splash back
5 D. imitator
6 D. leucomelas
4 D. pumilio Bastimentos
4 D. fantasticus
4 P. terribilis
4 D. reticulatus
4 D. castaneoticus

TIEHERP Feb 27, 2005 07:46 AM

Don't ever mix the morphs ! It's taken people way too long straighten out the mess that is the D.tinctorius complex. If you did cross the morphs not only would you be messing up decades of careful breeding but, you would have unsellable babies no one wants that crap. Keep one morph per tank and enjoy your frogs.
Johnny
This Island Earth Hertpetoculture
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EdK Mar 01, 2005 06:51 AM

All of the tincts will interbreed. The problem with this is that the regions where these frogs are from are under threat from habitat destruction and once the habitat is gone so are the original forms. There is a lot of concern that if people start hybridizing the morphs the genetic lines will be eliminated and there will no longer be any "pure forms" left. The reason for this is that people will often sell hybrids as one or the other of the parents thus contaminating all of the genetics.
This looks to have happened with some of the original azureus thatg were available in the country requiring the Zoos that are working with this species as a conservation project to scrap the breeding program and go and aquire known founder stock from the wild as an example of teh negative effect hybrids can do on a larger scale.
You can keep the different morphs together, but do not rear any eggs as there is no way you can be sure by visual inspection that any of the offspring are of one strain or another.

Ed

HerHideousCorpse Mar 02, 2005 11:02 PM

it would be interesting if anyone has pics of frogs that are from
crossbreeding or perhaps being questionably from a cross of...such and such. I did see one, I'll try to find it and post it.
I have a calander of frogs and it has a painted belly monkey frog as
d. histronicus and vise versa. And in an encyclopedia under poison frogs it said phyllobates is a species of tree-frog.

HerHideousCorpse Mar 02, 2005 11:30 PM

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HerHideousCorpse Mar 02, 2005 11:35 PM

oops, these are d. aratus??? this is a pic from Santa fe community college, gainsville ,FL. Found in meet the animals.

EdK Mar 03, 2005 07:57 AM

If that is from the Santa Fe Teaching Zoo at the community college they are indeed auratus.

Here is a link that shows some hybrid dart frogs.
http://www.tracyhicks.com/EdK.htm

Ed

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