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Colony Of Dragons

Onenine25 Feb 27, 2005 01:03 PM

If proper space is give for each dragon is it wrong to house juviniles together. I have 3 females and 1 Male all under 6 months. I am planning on building a home for them all and I plan on having a triangled shape enclosure with each side being 6 feet. My question is ... would this work and for how long. The other alternative is a stackable cage system for all the dragons seperatly, but that will get a bit expensive on the initial purchase.

Any info is helpful
Thanks!

Replies (14)

spook Feb 27, 2005 01:13 PM

It will last until one decides it is dominant and starts to maim the others. Then hopefully you'll separate them.

Onenine25 Feb 27, 2005 01:30 PM

Guess were going to seperate them then

spook Feb 27, 2005 01:47 PM

Excellent idea. In the confined areas that we hobbyist keep them, they should probably only be brought together for breeding.

LinsCubb Feb 27, 2005 05:32 PM

Its your choice, Spook is right breeding is usially the only time to have them together, but there are a lot of people who have 2 or more BD's together and have no problem. It depends on the dragons really. If you do get the big six foot cage done though, deffinetly post pics, I would love to see!

Lins
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firefighter2598 Feb 28, 2005 09:21 AM

I know everyone will disagree with me on here but I have to go with the last post and say its really up the dragons whether or not you can keep them together. I ave kept up to five adults in a large enclosure even with two being male and didnt have any trouble. To be honest I have never had any trouble with mine fighting when I put them together. On the other hand I do know fighting happens so if I were going to do it I would start them off together and just keep an eye on them. In my opinion I have found theyare less likely to want to establish dominance if you get younger dragons and raise them together. Throwing two adults dragons together would probably be a nono but otherwise I think they will be fine. Good Luck either way!

InTheBlue Feb 28, 2005 10:08 AM

Your correct. I had a pair that were housed together and the male actually would let the female go eat before even getting off the basking log. It GREATLY depends on the dragons. It can be dangerous but also beneficial you just have to watch and be ready to seperate if signs of aggression start popping up.

Spook,

I still think that the way you talk to people is a little over the top. You make it sound like it is impossible to keep beardies together because your beliefs are such. Just because you have heard it from some people and want their approval you post from what.... word of mouth? You also told me that I try to twist everything to my advantage in an email yet with your posts you do this very thing But in the name of "good husbandry".... LOL... what a joke. and on a side note if an adult bearded dragon can maim another or chew up an 8" hatchling, it could definately bite a childs finger off wouldn't you say? A mean beardie CAN do serious damage to a four year old finger.
It is possible that maybe you are just after the "popular vote".....

Sincerely,
Robert.... (the not so popular guy... ROFLMAO)
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onenine25 Feb 28, 2005 11:21 AM

I have worked in the pet trade for many years but it has been about 5 since I have. We used to keep our dragons in old retail showcases with 4 or 5 in there with no problems. I have a male and female together now and I am waiting on the other 2 females... They are all under 4 months old and will be put into a 40g breeder till I build this wooden cage. I was just checking up on current housing since I have been out of the field for a few years. Right now my little pair get along great, she is always climbing on his head to bask and he does let her eat before he comes down. They seem to be quit social actually, since there is a ton of arm waving from my female and he loves to do his pushups when she is watching him. I guess we will see what happens.

Thanks for all the info

spook Feb 28, 2005 01:29 PM

Robert take your guilt some other place. I don't care what you think about me personally. I do care for people using reptiles as throw away pets, not buying the proper equipment, not being willing to take on the vet bills involved. You may have felt like you needed to dispose of an animal that you didn't want, but don't take it out on me. There are cage locks that can keep animals in and children out, but that is an additional expense.
Be practical about these animals, they can be expensive, a lot of work and some of them live a very long time. Flushing them down the toilet should not be an option. Please don't get into something you can't finish. Please don't put these animals, that are depending on you, in unnecessary danger. I bet this will make me popular with breeders, huh Robert. Do the right thing.

InTheBlue Mar 01, 2005 09:05 AM

IOk your right. I went yesterday and bought a 1 acre plot of land to get my beadie memorial going... Since the toilet isn't a proper place to dispose of babies that died i decided to just buy a place to bury them where they can be forever memorialized. I'm even going to go the extra mile and hand carve into stone thier bloodlines, wieght, length, and take a nontampered color photo to show what they looked like and shellack it to the headstone.... I feel so much better now and my shame is just fleeing from me .... I just hope the beardie graveyard isn't as spooky as a real one..LOL

Terribly Sarcastic of me don't you think....LOL

Robert
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spook Mar 01, 2005 12:26 PM

Great attempt at deflection, but nobody is talking about disposing of dead lizards.

spook Feb 28, 2005 01:09 PM

and a lot of people have dragons walking around missing toes and pieces of tails..., but it's your animal so treat it however you want.

firefighter2598 Feb 28, 2005 08:38 PM

OK Not to keep a stick in the proverbial poop, but I think sometimes the fact that we want our dragons or snakes homes to look nice or we dont devote 500.00 a month to each animal we own gets misunderstood for lack of care. Now dont get me wrong, I am far from treating my animals like throw away animals. I give all of the animals I own the best care I possibly can. To be perfectly honest it is rather offensive to be called basically neglectful simply because I put a couple of dragons in the same cage. I mean honestly if I have to look in on shelf liner or newspaper then what is the point in keeping the animal. Picture this, youre kidnapped and taken from your home, put into an unfamiliar place, and stared at all day. I dont think the true happiness of the animal is a real consideration. I know these animals need certain things and have special needs but I think we get lost in making sure they are safe and lose sight of why we have the animal at all.

InTheBlue Mar 01, 2005 09:28 AM

I agree. Sometimes people can be extremely anal about stuff. I'm not a complete retard.(maybe partial from the diving accident..LOL) I am able to tell if a male housed in with a female is becoming aggressive or stressing her out and will do "the right thing" if that happens. To tell people it is impossible...well that's a lie. To give people all the info on the dangers, that it's possible, etc. gives them the oppurtunity to not only know thier beardie better but develope a better sense of thier needs and care. Oh but now I'm sure that I'll hear how I'm suggesting this at another beardies expense. BLAH BLAH BLAH
People will do what they want anyway so just posting a "don't do it" message is really putting the animals in more danger because most people will do it just because they want to no matter what is said and just not post about it anymore. So think about that next time you decide to post a "politically correct" statement that really isn't even complete truth to begin with. Just my opinion.

Later,
Robert
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Great spirits have always been recieved with violent opposition by mediocre minds. Albert Einstein

AlteredMind99 Mar 01, 2005 01:22 PM

As you can see, people are pretty torn on this subject. Generally, and this is not a rule because all animals are different. But generally, if you have only one male, plenty of space and plenty of food you should be able to keep your beardies together. There are problems though, the male may become overly agressiive an need to be seperated, and then you may find the females get along fine. Or you may have an agressive female and need to seperate her. Basically you need to watch them very closely and seperate them if there are any signs of trouble. Have spare tanks available so you dont end up having no where to put one if need be.

Also...

When setting up a tank to house multiple beardies make sure you get fecals done on all of them and get any parasites taken care of before they are all together. Also make sure that you have a basking spot avaiable for each dragon, and a basking spot for each of them on the cool side as well.
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