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WA Press: Reptile May Be Lurking In Lake Washington

Feb 28, 2005 12:01 PM

{Note - there's a video link at the uRL below}

KIRO (Seattle, Washington) 28 February 05 Reptile May Be Lurking In Lake Washington
Medina, Washington: Medina police are investigating reports of an alligator-like reptile that may be lurking in the waters of Lake Washington, KIRO 7 Eyewitness News reported.
The animal, called a caiman, has been seen lingering on land and wading the water off Medina and Hunts Point, police said.
In an e-mail sent out Friday, police warned residents not to approach or try to catch the animal. The reptile could attack if cornered, the e-mail said.
Caimans can reach seven feet in length. Experts believe the cold-blooded animal is probably a pet that got loose. The reptile is native to Latin America.
It's unclear how big the animal is or how dangerous it could be, KIRO 7 Eyewitness News reported.
Police in Medina ask anyone who's seen the animal or is missing a pet such as this to call them.
Reptile May Be Lurking In Lake Washington

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Feb 28, 2005 12:04 PM

SEATTLE TIMES (Washington) 28 February 05 Reports of reptile on loose unnerve Medina residents (Warren Cornwall)
Usually the only sightings of large, toothy reptiles in Medina and Hunts Point involve alligator handbags.
Now a live one is causing a stir in the toney Eastside enclaves. It appears to have made a home in Lake Washington inlets that border the towns.
Beware a caiman or some other large reptile spotted around Cozy Cove and Fairweather Bay, the Medina Police Department warned residents in a Friday e-mail. The department reported sightings, including one person who saw it lingering in the reeds at the back of the bay.
"My daughter was a bit upset," said Jan Peters, whose back yard runs up to Fairweather Bay. "She loves to go swimming, and of course she wants to make sure somebody catches it before she goes swimming."
If the sighting proves correct, it could be a caiman, which can grow to 7 feet long and usually makes its home much farther south, in the marshes and rivers of Latin American, said Dana Payne, a curator and reptile specialist at Seattle's Woodland Park Zoo.
Or it might be an American alligator, which can frequently reach 9 to 10 feet in length and hails from the Southeast, said Payne, who fielded a call from the Medina Police Department last week.
The toothy critters have made occasional appearances in Washington waters, probably courtesy of pet owners who set them loose. Animal-control officers hauled a caiman out of Cottage Lake near Woodinville in 1992.
Two caimans were caught napping on a beach at Seattle's Green Lake in 1986, more than a month after rumors first left waders wary, and they sparked gator jokes, recipes and even a naming contest.
Medina police, however, showed little humor in the announcement, which warned people not to approach or try to catch the animal, which could be especially dangerous to children.
Perhaps the biggest danger is to the cold-blooded animal, which wouldn't fare well in chilly weather, said Payne. The reptiles will generally try to avoid people unless cornered or grabbed.
"If a child ran up to it, it could lacerate a child pretty good," he said.
It's not clear what kind of reptile it is, or how large it is.
Caimans are more sensitive to the cold and wouldn't survive as long, but they also are more aggressive than the bigger, more cold-tolerant alligators, said Payne.
The discovery comes as state lawmakers consider a ban on owning toothy exotic animals like alligators, venomous snakes and lions, partly to address problems such as abandoned or escaped animals.
"The fact of the matter is these dangerous animals will never be domesticated," said Rep. John Lovick, D-Mill Creek, who has tried unsuccessfully to get the bill approved the past four legislative sessions.
Jon Allen, a rural Pierce County man who specializes in rescuing reptiles from their overwhelmed owners, said he has gotten two or three calls this year to pick up an alligator. In 2003, he took custody of a 6-foot gator living in someone's garage.
Allen, though, is among those who oppose the legislation, as does the Pacific Northwest Herpetological Society, a nonprofit group of reptile owners. Shari Anderson, a member of the society's board, says it would penalize responsible animal owners for the sins of a few and also could be expanded to cover other, more popular animals.
"From our viewpoint it all comes down to irresponsible ownership. The vast majority of people have made a lifelong commitment to care for these animals," Anderson said.
Peters, meanwhile, said she isn't overly concerned about the sighting. But just in case, she plans to keep an eye on her Wheaton terrier, Molly Brown.
Reports of reptile on loose unnerve Medina residents

toaster529 Feb 28, 2005 07:02 PM

Very interesting article, yet disturbing as I don't think many of us would disagree, each time this happens it moves us one step closer to someone introduction legislation to ban exotics in the states where we are fortunate to have freedom to own them.

I live in Ohio and since a guy barely escaped a rhino viper bite w/ his life, there has again been talk about introducing a bill to ban all exotics in my state.

My point in writing this blurb is two-fold:

First, to ask if anyone is going through this (banning) process currently or has been in the past; successfully or unsuccessfully?

And how do people in our shoes counter some state legislators who know little about keeping exotics and don't understand that the vast majority of us are responsible, and do not release dangerous animals into wild?

Secondly, I think as a preventative measure we somehow get the word out to these "amateur" (pardon the expression) owners who do not know what they're getting themselves into when purchasing these crocodilians, and let them know there are many people who will rescue them such as myself and dozens of others I've spoken with on these forums and elsewhere. Although, it may require some effort, the alternative, of having our freedoms of keeping these creatures taken away, is a much larger price to pay.

Sorry for the rant, but each time I read an article like these I get increasingly nervous about having to battle legislation in my home state. If anyone has any info or insight I'd love to read up to be prepared for what somedays seems like an inevitable problem I'm (we're) going to have to face.

Thanks for your input.
regards-
greg

toaster529 Feb 28, 2005 07:29 PM

There is a very interesting article in March's issue of National Geographic on Page 93 entitled Alien Invaders.

(Summary here: http://magma.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/0503/feature5/index.html)

It's about all the non-native species being introduced into places like Florida and the affects of doing so. Interesting because it also, inevitably, sparks talks of banning non-native (translate: exotics) from certain areas as a remedy to this problem.

Take Care,
Greg

Cdieter Mar 01, 2005 01:19 PM

Thanks for the link. I'll have to go and read that article.

I would have missed it otherwise.

Sincerely,
CD
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CDieter
'Reason, observation, and experience; the holy trinity of science.'

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