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3 questions, please help!

FireDrake Feb 28, 2005 07:46 PM

1. Which indigo is the all black/blue one? Or I should say, has the most black/blue color. Eastern? I'm having a hard time finding info...

2. I keep on hearing permits permits permits, I live in Colorado and as far as I know there are no "illegal" snakes (except for hots) in my area. There are no other restrictions in my city regarding snakes besides the hot ones, do I need a permit if I get a pair of indigos? Does anyone know, or, does anyone know where I can find out?

3. Where do you recommend I go to look for snakes?

Thanks!!!

Sarah
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FireDrake Exotics
www.FireAndLilac.com

Replies (7)

Carmichael Feb 28, 2005 08:05 PM

To answer your questions:
1) Yes, Eastern Indigos tend to be the darkest/richest black/indigo blue color of the Drymarchon clan (of course, there is variability among subspecies)
2) Check with your local dept. of natural resources, fish and game or U.S. Fish and Wildlife to make sure you are not required to keep a state endangered species permit. I can tell you this much, if you purchase an indigo snake from outside of Colorado (which is very likely), you will need an interstate commerce permit from the USFWS. Make sure you cover all of your bases.
3) Although I breed easterns, I would recommend that you go to www.indigosnakes.com to get a complete listing of breeders; I would highly recommend that you make some phone calls to make sure you are completely comfortable with the people you are dealing with (most of the folks listed at this website are great people to deal with).

Good luck, Rob

Rob Carmichael, Curator
The Wildlife Discovery Center
Lake Forest, IL

>>1. Which indigo is the all black/blue one? Or I should say, has the most black/blue color. Eastern? I'm having a hard time finding info...
>>
>>2. I keep on hearing permits permits permits, I live in Colorado and as far as I know there are no "illegal" snakes (except for hots) in my area. There are no other restrictions in my city regarding snakes besides the hot ones, do I need a permit if I get a pair of indigos? Does anyone know, or, does anyone know where I can find out?
>>
>>3. Where do you recommend I go to look for snakes?
>>
>>Thanks!!!
>>
>>Sarah
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>>FireDrake Exotics
>>www.FireAndLilac.com
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Rob Carmichael, Curator
The Wildlife Discovery Center at Elawa Farm
Lake Forest, IL

joeysgreen Mar 01, 2005 08:30 PM

A very busy guy indeed

Carmichael Mar 02, 2005 08:11 AM

I do poke around at the various forums from time to time but I will say this, the guys on the forum are by far and away the most decent, conservation-minded and dedicated people I know (many that I have the world of respect for). This is the place to be!

>>A very busy guy indeed
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Rob Carmichael, Curator
The Wildlife Discovery Center at Elawa Farm
Lake Forest, IL

steve fuller Feb 28, 2005 09:30 PM

You should have no trouble obtaining Federal permit for interstate transport as long as breeder will supply letter stating that the Eastern you're obtaining is the result of captive breeding. Be ready to pay 500 - 1000 for a hatchling. Be careful: these snakes are so cool that you can't keep just one.

epidemic Mar 01, 2005 08:27 AM

Personally, I have found that my Mexican red-tail and Texas Indigos to be just as attractive as their Eastern cohorts, though I do have Easterns as well and they are my favorites.
One pleasant point, regarding the Mexican red-tail and Texas Indies, is that they require no permits for interstate commerce, but they are certainly not Easterns.
While I keep and breed all six of the available Dry clan members, I would also recommend you view the breeders list at www.indigosnakes.com..

Best regards,

Jeff

FireDrake Mar 01, 2005 07:49 PM

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FireDrake Exotics
www.FireAndLilac.com

dryguy Mar 06, 2005 03:36 PM

I didn't know of anyone else keeping Dry's in the Centennial State(Northern Territory of the Great Republic of Texas)..I've cut my collection to the bone because of my limited time now, but I'm always happy to talk "Dry's"..
You do not need any permit for Eastern's in CO, except for the Federal permit..No local or state permit is needed..
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Carl W Gossett
Garage Door Herps
Monument,Colorado...northern territory of the Great Republic of Texas

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