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South Korean Dione's Ratsnakes....(pix)

Ratsnake Haven Mar 01, 2005 07:46 PM

Had a little fun cleaning and feeding my 2001 South Korean Dione's ratsnakes, Elaphe dione, today, and feeding them their first thawed fuzzy of the year. Here's the female. Notice the yellowish labials and ground...

This is the male. Notice the orangish labials and the darker blotches...

Here's a view of the ventral surface of the male...

Hopefully they mated in the Fall. I'll try again later, in case the first pairing didn't take.

TC
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Ratsnake Haven: Calico and hypo Chinese beauty snakes, Mandarin ratsnakes, Chinese twin-spotted ratsnakes, South Korean Dione's ratsnake, leopard snakes, Great Plains ratsnakes, and corn snakes

Replies (4)

Gargoyle420 Mar 06, 2005 01:58 AM

Great looking Diones.I almost grabbed a pair a few months back at a reptile show.Im kicking myself in the azz now.
I have some newbi questions.
Temps?
Feed schedules?
Any problems with regurges?
Any feeding problems at all?
I havent found many caresheets on them.
Thank you....Paul

Ratsnake Haven Mar 06, 2005 10:08 AM

>>Great looking Diones.I almost grabbed a pair a few months back at a reptile show.Im kicking myself in the azz now.

Thanks, Paul.
I'm curious though, about someone getting babies last summer, or are you referring to adults? Mine are "locality" and I've only sold babies to a few others. The 2001, CB, F-1 gen. are coming ready to breed this year, 2005. Most Korean dione are the northern form which is much like the Russian dione. I don't know of anyone else that has original South Koreans, or any that were imported. I would appreciate any info along these lines.

>>I have some newbi questions.
>>Temps?

These are very hardy snakes, diurnal, and will do well at most temps, except very high temps. I usually keep mine at room temp, 72-80*F, and sometimes use an overhead lamp on one end of the tank, especially in spring when temps are a little cooler in the Herp Room, and the snakes are digesting more.

>>Feed schedules?

I adjust according to size, age, time of year, etc, but basically they eat the appropriate size mouse or two, about once a week. They might overeat, if you let them, so I watch their body size and weight. If they are getting too plump I cut back. They'll eat thawed, live, mouse, rats, etc. Full grown snakes can eat an adult mouse, although I usually use adolescents.

>>Any problems with regurges?

Never.

>>Any feeding problems at all?

The last clutch I worked with, in 2002, had fifteen of sixteen that hatched. I had one baby that was a fussy eater, but managed to eat enough to get by. I cooled it for about 7-8 weeks in winter and it ate fine after that. I would say they are easier than corns to start and tend to be larger babies. The yearlings and larger are ravenous feeders. They reach adult size in three yrs. easily.

>>I havent found many caresheets on them.
>> Thank you....Paul

Steppes Ratsnakes, in general, aren't commonly kept. South Korean dione are relatively unknown, except on the Ratsnake Forum, haha. These are one of the largest dione forms, along with the Central Chinese dione. They get the longest and heaviest, have the largest clutches of any dione, and are the prettiest, imho. My 2001 female weighs over 250 grams already and is still growing. Her mother ended up being 46 inches, considerably heavier, and has the largest clutch recorded for a dione. The males are somewhat smaller in length, and especially in mass.

One thing I try to stress is that these dione make fabulous pets. I keep all kinds of corns, kings, and other things, and these snakes are easily my favorite pet species. People don't convince easily though.

Here's a pic of the 2001 male, 3-5-05, with the female in the background....

Here's a pic of one of my 2002 males, 3-5-05, munching a fuz...

Thanks for the post and talk more later...Terry

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Ratsnake Haven: Calico and hypo Chinese beauty snakes, Mandarin ratsnakes, Chinese twin-spotted ratsnakes, South Korean Dione's ratsnake, leopard snakes, Great Plains ratsnakes, and corn snakes

draybar Mar 06, 2005 12:07 PM

>>>>Those are beautiful snakes.
I am glad Paul asked the same questions that were going through my head.
They are definitely a snake I could see adding to my collection.
Just two more questions.
Where can a person acquire a couple of Dionnes and how much do they cost?
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Corn snakes and rat snakes..No one can have just one.
"resistance is futile"
Jimmy (draybar)

Draybars Snakes

Terry Cox Mar 06, 2005 01:39 PM

Thanks, Jimmy. I will be breeding my 2001, F1 pair this year. They've already mated, but the female hasn't had her first shed, yet. I think Terry Parks will be breeding his 2001 pair also, but need to talk to him about his plans. I think he bought the F1's from me for about $90-100/ea. I'm sure Terry and I will come to an agreement on what to sell them for. The 2005, F2 generation will likely be somewhat less than the F1's. I can't really put them up for sale until I have a gravid female, at least

I don't know of anyone else that has the South Koreans (North Koreans, maybe). I also highly recommend this form for a pet. There are probably a few breeders in the U. S. that have other localities, especially Chinese dione, and I have no idea what their prices are. Back when I kept the Chinese, I bought them at trade shows for about $100-125/ea. Send me an e-mail for any more info, pics, or questions you might have. Thanks,

TC

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Ratsnake Haven: Calico and hypo Chinese beauty snakes, Mandarin ratsnakes, Chinese twin-spotted ratsnakes, South Korean Dione's ratsnake, leopard snakes, Great Plains ratsnakes, and corn snakes

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