WC in AZ near Mexico.
Any suggestions?
cheers
thorsten
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What kind of Kingsnake?
trichter
Mar 02, 2005 04:29 AM
Replies (5)
chrish
Mar 02, 2005 07:59 AM
That is an intergrade between the subspecues californiae and splendida. Those sort of kings are fairly common in southern AZ. Neat looking snakes.
I often see people refer to these sort of intergrades as yumensis, which is technically incorrect. Not only is yumensis an invalid subspecies, but the real yuma king (when it was first described) was actually a narrow banded cal x nigrita intergrade which really didn't show any splendida influence.
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Chris Harrison
trichter
Mar 02, 2005 08:19 AM
thanks for the fast and qualified answer!
but what should i do when i went breed with them (i guess i've two males).
should/could i breed them with cal./splen. or would this create some kind of ... lets call it "bastards" ??
thorsten
rearfang
Mar 04, 2005 03:35 PM
Since it is an intergrade (I fully agree with the ID) either snake would be ok to breed with as it is allready a Mutt.
Frank
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"The luxury of not getting involved departed with the last lifeboat Skipper..."
Hotshot
Mar 08, 2005 08:26 PM
To you it might be a "mutt", but some of us happen to find natural intergrades just as pleasing as a pure breed. For instance, the natural occurring Red X Eastern milk here in KY are very nice looking snakes that Mother Nature has created. I find the natural occurring intergrades interesting.
Brian
>>Since it is an intergrade (I fully agree with the ID) either snake would be ok to breed with as it is allready a Mutt.
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>>Frank
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>>"The luxury of not getting involved departed with the last lifeboat Skipper..."
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RATS
1.0 Corn snake "Warpath" (KY locale)
1.0 Black rat snake "Havok" (KY locale)
1.1 Black rat snakes "Reaper and Mystique" (MO locale)
1.0 Albino Black rat snake "Malakai" (Dwight Good stock)
1.0 Everglades rat snake "Deadpool" (Dwight Good stock)
0.1 Greenish rat snake "Rogue" (Dwight Good stock)
1.0 Yellow rat snake "Wolverine" (Dwight Good stock)
1.0 Grey rat snake "Punisher" (White oak phase)(Dwight Good stock)
RACERS
1.0 Eastern Yellow Belly racer "Nightcrawler" (MO locale)
KINGS
1.1 California king snake "Bandit and Moonstar" (Coastal phase)
1.0 Prairie king snake "Bishop" (KY locale)
0.1 Black king snake "Domino" (KY locale)
1.0 Desert Kingsnake "Gambit"
0.1 Florida Kingsnake
MILKS
0.0.1 Eastern Milk snake "Cable" (KY locale)
0.0.1 Eastern/Red milk intergrade "Omega Red" (KY locale)
Good luck and Happy Herping
Brian
rearfang
Mar 10, 2005 09:46 AM
Before ye get on yer high horse...I have nothing against a good NATURAL (intergrade) mutt. But, I call them as I see them.
Frank
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"The luxury of not getting involved departed with the last lifeboat Skipper..."
